Private surveillance equipment is now so cheap that it's more rational to assume that a given airbnb is recording your each transfer than not.
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This assumes that cost was the main factor discouraging people from installing devices though?
Ya this is a very stupid post
Most people are lazy, and low prices make being a voyeur very low effort.
It's like when Christians ask atheists why they don't walk around raping and killing people if they don't believe in God and the Bible... ... and you are shocked that fear of going to hell is apparently the only thing keeping that guy from raping women and killing you.
We stayed in an AirBnB recently and I walked out of the bathroom naked. She said to me “babe, what if they have a camera?” And I said “if they do out here the probably do in the bathroom too” And then I carried on
I housesit for people occasionally and on the first night I’m there I always poop with the door open and walk around naked a couple times (and trust me, not in a sexy way; think Winnie the Pooh meets the sitting frog meme) to communicate that just in case they were hoping for ...
Realistically, the cleaning fee is high enough that they should expect some live entertainment.
If my wife said that I would just helicopter my thing to give them a better show.
I believe the illegality of it discourages that
The problem is that nobody will find out. So it's a very low risk thing to do. As long as they don't put the recordings online, it's extremely unlikely that anyone will find out.
Sure that just adds to their thrills
Morality may play a role, as well.
Maybe not every move. They can’t see me wiggle my toe.
*Tarantino has left the chat*
When you wiggle your toes you can see muscles in your legs responding to that input, they won't be able to see your toes wiggle, but they might see that and also any ups and downs in the toe area of the shoes and will arrest you for daring to be alive in a short term rental.
Uhh. Thermal cameras.
You think cost of a camera is what prevents people from illegally spying on others?
I mean, it was a factor
That’s why I just do drugs naked in the living room. Lean into it.
Are you me?
I’m not so sure about that. You open yourself up to losing your income stream if you get caught doing that weird shit at best, at worst go to jail. I think MOST owners have the sense and moral compass to not do that.
As opposed to an immoral comma
Moral compass? We're talking about AirBnb owners
Subscription based home security equipment is now so cheap we’re spying on each other for the government
And feel all indignant that it is ok to film your neighbors as they go about their lives. In neighborhoods where the home owners complain about people parking in front of their houses because there has not been a crime in over 5 years.
Bingo.
I like to stage a murder with my family on the last day. Drag the “body” to the car and then drive off into the sunset. Leave them with some tough decisions to make.
Most of our guests make a sex tape during their stay. They just don't know about it.
As an Airbnb manager- why? Not everyone is a creep.
Our definition of the word 'rational' is clearly quite different.
What's your definition?
Is it more important to worry about the possibility that an AirBNB host is spying on you or the near certainty that a private company (like Flock Safety) is tracking your movements in public and happily giving it to police and the government?
Not at all. But we need to try to raise awareness that it is wrong to spy on people and anything that makes people think at all is good. Why isn't it considered rude to send video footage of your friends and loved ones out into the cloud controlled by a corporation? I don't kn...
I feel like the actual shower thought is: Isn’t it a lot more likely to be a guest who installs a recording device than a host? After all, guests are much harder to find/accuse than hosts, have a lot less to lose than hosts, and there are a lot more guests who have access to...
the smallest self contained "spy" camera setup to do offline recording is smaller that a small match box. I've had cheap thimble sized wireless cameras for over 20 years. when you got an air BnB, turn off all lights, and have a scan around the room with your phone with flash o...
Unfortunately for them I'm an exhibitionist
I think it's more that the system is cheap AND small AND can be wireless now more than just cheap but I try not to think about it when I travel
This is all I can think about when I go anywhere and stay overnight. Who might be watching? Doesn't help that before all the cheaper electronics, some landlords and renters got caught doing this. I remember being freaked out finding out that a well known actor (not going to...
Are there detectors you can bring in to sweep the area?
You should be able to see it in your phone camera.
Just a reminder for everyone: any bathroom mirror can just be a one way mirror with a camera behind it. You’d never know!
I assume I'm being recorded whenever I leave my home. Act accordingly
That’s impossible! It’s against Airbnb’s policy! /s
I know, right?!?
Scanning network is completely cheap if you have phone, sooo... they can try but if I see any unrecognised device on network. Router off... done.
Just unplug router when you get there, hotspot on phone.
Cameras don’t have to be connected to the internet
We crossed that line in vacation rentals like ten years ago.