Corporate Adviser Says the Ideal Number of Human Employees at a Business Is Zero
An outspoken cybersecurity engineer and AI booster has sparked massive outrage after claiming that the ideal, natural, clean, happy state for any firm is to have exactly zero human workers. Arguing that corporations are actively trying to reach this goal, he believes AI is simply finishing what the Industrial Revolution started.
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As long as the includes the CEOs and every level of management, I'm fine with that idea.
For the number to be 0 it would have to. There will no longer be management there will just be owners and robots.
You’re fine with the capital owning class just automating everything and creating a planet that’s essentially one giant ghetto except for them? The managers are often just in debted petite bourgeois and themselves a few paychecks from losing it all too. Capitalism will absol...
It should also include ownership. Absolutely no human share holders. If that's the case, I'm fine with it. No one works, corps fight to provide us service, we are truly equal.
Do CEOs really not understand that if there are no employees, then nobody has money. If nobody has money, then nobody can buy shit. If nobody buys shit, then the companies go out of business. If they really want their bullshit capitalist system to continue, then they need paid...
That would require a collective mindset which is the exact opposite of how one gets a CEO job
Capitalism does not incentivize CEOs to think that way. Every CEO is running a company they think is the one that will survive, and has an important place in the market. If they didn't think that, they wouldn't work there and the company would sink/fail.
It’s a flaw in capitalism. If your company is the only one not fully automated then you go out of business as you can’t compete. So everyone try’s to automate. But if everyone automates then there’s no jobs and companies go under. The only way to stop it would be for the gover...
So prices will drop dramatically right…..Right?!?!
Of course not!
And they will support UBI as part of their vast savings... Right..?
The preferred method of pay that capitalism preferes is none. It demands slaves be greateful for being captured and considered worthy of being enslaved n the first place. You cannot reason with deliberate parasitism, only attempt to remove it by any means necessary.
Do it. See how long your company lasts.
start removing the CEO's, the rest of the C Suite, then top level executives, then just stop and let us continue our work productively
That can't be right, we've been told all along that the companies are job creators.
Banks have already said that this would collapse the economy. Just trying to do this would destroy the entire system.
Mathematically we could enter a system where the top 15% control the vast majority of consumption and companies adjust by producing mostly luxury products. It’s been moving that way for a while. But of course people will rip a system like that down.
Does that mean CEO of the company will open and close the shutters of the company, Mob the floor too. 😂
He thinks it will be ai and robots. No humans nessissary.
Labor is the most expensive input to the profit equation and shareholders demand ever increasing profits in a world of finite resources. The industrial revolution increased that rate of profit, yes, but the underlying economic system must be considered. Eliminating human work...
Eliminating the **cost** of human labor is the goal, not eliminating human labor.
Meet George Jetson.
If AI is finishing what the industrial revolution started, then we need a new Ned Ludd to finish what the Luddites started.
The machines can't repair the machines and the machines we are building are junk in the first place.
tell me that a Corprate advisor never has worked in a real production facility without telling me that he has never worked in a real production facility?
As long as it includes CEO and board of directors, then its fine. Then corporation ceases to exist and the world is better off. So go ahead corporate world, Google, Microslop, Apple, Amazon, make the change.
All of these freaks ideal company has no employees, doesn’t do anything, and is worth 20 trillion dollars. They live in a complete fantasy.
The ideal number of billionaires is also zero.
Cool, and what about human customers?
Go away! ‘baitin’.
It sounds like joke I would say to my parents as we were having dinner after coming home from their jobs as elementary school teachers and they were telling war stories about the annoying things the kids were doing "It sounds like the perfect school is the one without any stud...
Yes thats literally the end game for capitalism
So if there's no humans working, and it's all being run by AI, then AI should provide services to humans for free. No operating loss, right?
And the ideal cost of everything is free! And it should rain hot chocolate and hail marshmallows!
I wonder what the ideal number of customers with no money is?
Same number as ideal bosses too
Which is fine if there is a concrete plan for how to handle the people who no longer have jobs. We can't all just "go into a trade."
That does include the exec's. They're also employees!
Human capital is always the highest cost. So from a numbers only perspective, with no critical thinking of who the customers would be, that’s an accurate statement I guess.
"Cool so when are you quitting"
Corporations are people too.
So after everyone is fired on masse who do they think will be the customers?
This is the same as saying “the most secure software is no software”. Sure, technically right, but not realistic.
I must have missed this part while getting my MBA…
So how does the trickling down work?
I mean, it is. Zero cost, infinite profit is the ideal.
Alright boys pack it up we're done.
How do these CEOs expect anyone to even buy their shit then? You can’t sell products to slaves who are always working. There’s a finite amount of wealthy people in the world and don’t want anyone cutting in on their action as it is.
Cool. So when the AI inevitably does something silly like delete a bunch of data, send a garbage text email out to every client, fail to monitor a key piece of safety equipment or just decide to stop working, all these geniuses will have a solution for us then and will actuall...
Safety margins are unneccessary expences to capitalism.
Corporate adviser advises no employees needed to make/sell their garbage products. Corporate adviser advises employed people needed to buy/subscribe their garbage products.
Who do these CEOs expect to buy their crap
That’s so funny! As a human employee I’ve often said that the ideal number of corporate advisors is zero.
I mean thats the ideal number employees around the world. Isnt this exactly what AI was meant to do? Take our jobs so we can chill.
Good. Gift us UBI and we’ll be on our way.
So, does this genius... this TITAN of industry, this Einstein of the modern day, this self made Tesla... know what his customer base will be?
So...what the fuck are we meant to do and how does the economy operate then?
So the ideal number of customers must also be 0 then.
At that point it's just shareholders begging for money.
Including the corporate advisor.
This guy should stop talking and just do it. I can't wait to see the results.
I'm convinced that part of the deal to buy these AI models comes with a discount if you bragg about this BS Ultimately they want it to reduce labor costs but even if it's not successful it will have done it's job if it convinces all of us that we have to accept lower wages si...
This should start with this advisor.
As a fellow Cybersecurity Engineer, this tells me this dude is a blow hard. Yes, the biggest threat to security is between the chair and the screen, but that's both job security and the least likely thing to malfunction.
...does that include replacing "corporate advisors"?
Dos he have a job? I think his should be the first to go.
Weird way of articulating that the current state of Corporate Capitalism doesn’t work.
The ideal number of consumers of that company’s product or services is zero. Along with revenues and profits.
The funny part is that AI should ultimately replace the most expensive, least productive parts of a company. The C Suite. You have AI with intakes data and outputs decisions based on the best data without bias for self interest or enrichment. Then you have the lowest cost la...
If we’re getting paid a UBI, that’s fine by me
Ugh. I’m so tired of this AI craze. Either do it already and eliminate the jobs or shut the fuck up already.
And when they have no use for us, then what?
All the employees are gone, its perfect. It's a perfect business having no employees. The future of a planet without people making their homes there. From the board room straight into the garbage can labeled 'time '. On the way out for the top: golden pair of shoop, golden shoop.
Ideally that would be the start of a thought experiment followed by... "but that's not realistic, so here's how we increase efficiency of who we do have"... but i guess now it's realistic...