Woman, 58, asked to train replacement half her age—reply says everything.
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If I’m not qualified for the position, I’m not qualified to train someone else to be successful in that position.
And people were literally sticking up for the company, like "Oh maybe it's your *attitude*, maybe *that's* why you didn't get the job" like no, she didn't get the job because of ageism, plain and simple, and I wouldn't train the replacement either.
The way corporations try to extract every last drop of value before throwing u away like trash is wild bruh the audacity
You can be qualified but too expensive.
In November 2024, the entire workload of another person was shunted to me because they had fired the person doing that job. It was the oversight of 14 out of state small facilities and their basic needs. (Plumbing, lighting, landscape maintenance, etc.) I told them I didn't...
Good for you for standing up for yourself. A lot of people would roll over. Fuck these companies and they way they treat people.
>I felt the same way. If I can't get the job because I'm not qualified, what makes me qualified to do the job? Your willingness to be exploited.
Sounds like a company I know lol
>Schroeder said she was "managed out" for three weeks thereafter as her projects were given to others and everything she did was noted as "performance issues." When her manager finally suggested they part ways, Schroeder requested a severance package including six months of...
She could've asked for a lot more to be frank.
They would love it if we were minimally sentient bipedal mules with hands. I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to breed or engineer barely self aware humans that will always do what they're told and smart enough to be productive but dumb enough to be docile. Edit: wait...
Smells like constructive dismissal.
One of my friends who is an accountant had more or less the same thing happen to her quite a few years ago (pre-covid) when her boss decided to 'demote' her in order to give her job to his daughter who not only had no experience or qualifications in accounting, but also had no...
Its sad, but same thing happened to me! Bookkeeper, but otherwise the same. Daughter had never held a job, and boss tried to find cause to fire me, couldnt, so made my life hell. I finally quit and sure enough, within days hes calling. Funny part, I found out later from former...
I work in cybersecurity. Nice story, please put your passwords in a text file anywhere on a computer. Whoever reads this use a password manager.
"My consulting fee is $200 an hour." I wouldn't converse beyond that.
We're all tools to these people nothing more.
Yup. Problematic biological machinery.
Tools? Nah, tools are valuable and people generally treat them well and expect them to last. We're just replaceable, consumable parts.
GenX here - I am doing my best to screw over my employer on my way out. After four $%@$ decades of working I am fortunate enough to retire before my usefulness was exhausted by working to make some wealthy asshole even wealthier. I used to be an enthusiastic worker. They ...
Same thing happened to my mom when she was around 60 years old. Her boss hired a 20something year old girl with big boobs and had her doing misc jobs around the office. She was there 2 or 3 days when my mom's boss came up to my mom and asked her to train the new girl as "backu...
Worthless human beings such as them shouldn't be allowed management positions.
Never train unless you have been hired specifically to train.
This is what happened to me at Target. I was supposed to be a Guest Service Team Lead and was passed over for promotion by a girl they hired from outside the store, the exec that hired her was heard by multiple people saying it was because she was hot and he wanted to fuck her...
I'm Gen X too and had a similar experience. I was working on a 1 year contract and things were going very well. A 3 year contract position for the role came up which coincided with the end of my contract so obviously, I applied as I thought there was a very good chance I'd g...
Yeah, I feel you, getting altogether more common in this bleeding kip.
I had a 6 month contract, applied for the permanent contract that would have started as I finished my 6. They extended my contract 3 months, broke confidentiality after the interview and then rejected me lmao. I hit them with the breach of confidentiality, which was proven a...
My dad experienced age-ism towards the end of his career. He was always the go-to guy for everything. It hurt to watch how much it hurt him. Especially because he needed an income (health insurance) for my sick mother. Hell, even in my 40’s I’m already seeing it happen aroun...
Im in my 40s and work with tons of younger folks. The assumption that they are more tech savvy is flat out wrong. I think there was a time this may have been true, and perhaps this is bias toward my own generation, but it seems tech has gotten to a place where young people d...
The thing that strikes me is how anyone over 50 is considered a decrepit dinosaur by 30 something morons in management, yet a lot of their top politicians and recent presidents are so consistently senile old dinosaurs... 🙄
I think that’s the old way of thinking. The current way of thinking is older people have more established boundaries due to their decades of experience. The 20 something is far easier to take advantage of and force to work excessive hours with no additional pay and overtime.
This happened to me when the school I worked for as a librarian replaced me, a librarian with a master of library and information science degree and several years of experience with a SECRETARY who had taken a library technician course and never worked in a library. And they w...
I think this is missing a key component overall. Yes there’s the ageism, but there is also a component where boomers have not left the market and are clinging to jobs that Gen X would have moved into by now, exacerbated by lack of social safety nets and lack of genuine growth ...
Clinging to jobs or still need to work? Not every boomer is set up for retirement and ready to go and it’s also ageism to think they owe it to everyone to get out of the way.
at 58 she is gen x
58 is at least 7 years under retirement age, depending on the area. Not remotely a case of "boomers clinging to jobs".
its very sad, but every company wants to actively dump employees over 50, who they feel "cant keep up" or have outlived their usefulness. they believe they can get a new person to do more at a fraction of the cost. completely age discrimination
I'm 52 I have more information a d knowledge in my head that could possibly be converted to ai Edge cases, niche personal discoveries, knowing where the skeletons are etc Fire me and you get operational Alzheimers, you know there's something there but no way to recall ...
25 year olds trying to succeed in a corporate environment don't typically have kids and can drop everything to put in 16 hour days for weeks on end to get a project over the finish line. 40-50 yr olds have lives that they aren't going to put on hold because somebody decided ...
I’m terrified of the thought that I likely won’t be able to afford to retire until 70 (or older), but could likely be forced into retirement much sooner than that.
I remember I was a software dev an an EHR (a big one) they brought in some consulting firm, no training- no working with other devs, nothing. we got let go and i figured that was it. not more than 3 months later, a co-worker who still worked there called me saying managemen...
Good work!
I was working incredibly hard to be promoted into a senior leadership role, a lot of my contributions were training and onboarding new employees. They passed me up for someone else and then asked that I would develop a new training for a new system we were implementing. I told...
A 58 year old should be thinking about retirement, not worrying about starting their career all over again.
Shut up and delete your account. Oh, and the ageism everyone is talking about…you just exemplified it. Thanks for reinforcing the article’s point.
Hahaha. I'm 50 and in the UK. In the olden days I'd be 5 years from a cushy early retirement. Unfortunately that seems to have stopped after 2008 and now I'm looking at another 17 years of working before I can retire (i.e. draw the UK state pension)
Retirement age is 69 and some months for me now, and will probably be more like 75 when I get that far, which means I need to work 30 more years. Luckily I have invested some money already toward earlier retirement, but if you're out of a job, 58 and never did that you're scre...
Ageism and payism … guarantee the 25 year old replacement was making half the salary.
This is what happened to me and my older male coworker. They added me to the team to help halve his workload. After a year they laid him off and gave me his entire workload for half his pay. He had like 20yrs of experience and was struggling with that workload, I knew they se...
Yet they want to keep raising the retirement age on everyone at the same time. The system is just slavery with a bit more autonomy than slavery in the classic sense of the word.
Slavery with weekends?
I wonder how the 25 year old is doing with no training? The only response would be: "You thought she was qualified for the job, so why does she need training?"
Probably fine... like seriously I see this complaint from boomers and genX all the time but in the majority of cases all they were asked was to train the person on like company specific SOPs not the actual professional skill the job revolves around. I really wish this story sp...
Sadly she was constructively dismissed. Even with severance I hope she at least talks to a lawyer.
The Epstein files have revealed how the CEO/billionaire class treats children. It's no surprise the same class of people pushes this behavior on its employees in the business world. Thankfully there were unions in the 20th C that paved the way for us to have what little rights...
I work for a multi billion dollar company and I'm getting really sick of the way they expect us to go "above and beyond" while doing the absolute bare legal minimum for us..
I worked for a company 15 years ago. They closed our satellite office. Moved everything back to the home office. They did it right before Christmas! They then asked several people to go to the home office and train their replacements. The company was going pay for it all. T...
This is more common for women. Older men are seen as mature and competent most of the time. Older women are not given the benefit of the doubt. If they stop coloring their hair or become overweight, it only makes the age discrimination worse.
The US needs stronger worker protections
I think you mean any...
I am a woman in my 50s and keenly aware that if I had to find another job, my age will be more of an issue than my lack of credential in this field.
I’m 47 and it’s already been an issue. I get interviews but it doesn’t get beyond that. They hear my voice, see me on zoom or whatever, and that’s that. 20 years experience = nothing
This is why you don’t give your life to corpo scum bags
**"It’s normal corporate behavior to drain the life out of their employees."**
It’s often about money. Older (read: experienced) workers cost more. They know their abilities, and having been around for a while, they recognize the smell of bullshit. Corporate bosses don’t care about getting the job done right, they care about paying as little as possible....
In a hiring scenario, yes. But that's not what this is. A tenured employee is more often than not far cheaper than a new hire because your pay increases slower than market rate the longer you stay at a job. ~~They are definitely paying that new hire more than this woman~~ (pro...
Sorta same thing happened to me. Company decided to outsource my job to contractors in India. They asked myself and a few others across the company to go and train them to do my job. Being neither blind nor naive, I knew I was basically training my replacements and it was only...
The sad reality is the younger staff member that got the promotion instead of her is probably related to someone high up in the company. Probably riding the coattails of a relative.
Not sure how you can jump to that conclusion. Great chance the older individual is not proficient in technology like the younger individual and that plays a part.
"No" is spelt "Fuck off" but otherwise i agree
Gen X REPRESENT!!!!!
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Hello manager I don’t understand why I was passed for this promotion since I believe I was qualified. Since I am not qualified for the role I shouldn’t be teaching someone for the position as I do not have what it takes since I don’t meet the qualifications. Send email: hello...
Replacing experience with cheaper labor often means losing knowledge that can’t easily be replaced.
This has happened to at least three of my friends when they got to that age. Oh yeah, me too. I started to do my own thing no regrets. And the hell with corporate America.
I've been experiencing ageism ever since I reached 40...
Not quite the same, but I was in my 20s at my first professional career. I was in this role for about three years after completing my masters degree and made $65k. We hired a new guy, same age as me, dropped out halfway through his masters program, no experience. They hired hi...
Ii don’t think it’s age, it’s money.
I would train her, but everything I told her would be wrong.
I’ve experienced and witnessed blatant ageism.
I trained my new boss, who was the same age as me, who had much less experience in our department. I was his right hand man for two years and then he got promoted. I interviewed for his old job as a director level position. He turned me down because I didn't have management ex...
I remember seeing this video a bit ago. I am surprised that people are finally talking about it
Bosses and companies exploit lifelong employees, film at 11
Does the article or any of its links name the company that did this? If not, it’s just clickbait.
Yeah where link!???
Everything boils down to “you’re not a team player” in the end.
No employer has your interests in mind
An age discrimination lawsuit would require more effort and time than a negotiated severance payout but it would be worth a lot more.
Ageism is very prevalent. I've been through it. My son just went through after 15 yrs on his job. He's 48.
> The AARP reports that forms of age discrimination include the assumption that older colleagues are less tech-savvy... Ha. In a contest of Gen X vs Gen Z tech savviness I'd pick Gen X every time. I teach masters students, and my 80-year-old dad understands basic computer...
People who grew up with Apple II, CP/M, DOS, early windows, RS-232 and breakout boxes, etc… had to know how to troubleshoot tech by using a cryptic manual combined with trial and error. Those technologies might be obsolete, but the resourcefulness and diligent problem solving ...
I have lost count the number of times I have done this
She negotiated 6 months pay in her severance package. 🤜🤛
Is that really severance, or more an out of court settlement to avoid the age discrimination lawsuit.
She did good. First there was Luigi, now theres also Jennifer.
This is why I’m trying desperately to prepare to retire at 55. There’s no way I last to 62.5 let alone 67.
Genius move! Compound interest is your ally and your superpower!
Same age as the person in the story. It sucks extra for GenX because of the squeeze. We had the Boomers ahead of us and the millennials behind. In the tech industry I went from “green behind the ears” to “over the hill” overnight. Been in the latter camp since my 30s, nearly 3...
Imagine getting severance
Good for her to take that stand.
This type of stuff can be stopped. By not rewarding it. Companies that act like this should have the people enabling destructive behaviors held accountable. Criminally. Not the company as the company isnt a person. "Abused the position of authority through business, and the ...
Was on the phones at the time , deathly dull, stupid procedures, you know the drill (to the head). I legitimately asked for 4 weeks to be fully compliant and up to speed, they said 2 weeks, I dealt in, 2 weeks training, then various sessions and days. Anger held in manager a...
Im approaching that age and it frustrating how many things in my career have completely changed in that time. I am not sure my training would even be helpful. Thats why I would only do it exactly by the company manuals, as apparently my learned experience would not have been...
What happens next will shock you!
Yep, I was there a few years back but then the "replacement" was caught sleeping at his desk one too many times. Always go with the known quantity.
I can’t even watch this video because as soon as I touch any part of the embedded file I just get endless ads for Ford
She mentioned she would have done things a little bit different if the same thing happened, what was it?
Wow that's some classic AI clickbait titling. I thought they had the models trained better these days. Got the hook at the end, got the classic em-dash. If Newsweek is so concerned about workers maybe they should hire some writers instead of using LLMs.
The same person who decided that 58 is the age at which someone is useless, has nothing to left to offer, and should be put out to pasture. Isn’t that what you were implying?
Idk if this story is true but when I ran into this tiktok a while ago the story was used as a vehicle to sell you her course in how to "keep receipts" and everything you should do in case this happens to you. I work for myself so I clicked off. But at least the rage bait was e...
The title is a bit misleading - sounds like she was asked to train her manager.
It's one of those strange ones for me, and I know this will be unpopular, so I'm going to start off by saying the company and the managers above absolutely played the wrong games with this woman and it was rude, cruel, and could have been even legally irresponsible for them to...
I was working for a company in their Finance Department as an analyst. While my primary role had to deal with the analytics of sales and finance, I was also the point person for all data and dashboard creation. One day I was brought in on a project for software implementat...
Yep similar thing has happened to me several Times. Seems when ever apply I get 100 questions meant to drill down and make me look bad. And those that get promoted never even had to apply and interview, Or if they did interview they were coached. Then they get the job and k...
I thought the title was talking about a literal train for a minute smh I was so confused 😂
Nah, I would have trained the 25 year old wrong that’s all. I guess I didn’t know how to do the job you won’t promote me too after all…but I’ll be damned if I give you a reason to push me out like they did to this woman.
I put in for a driver trainer. I was literally the only person in the facility that was qualified in every vehicle we had. Didn’t get the job, they then wanted me to train the person who was hired to be the trainer. It was kind of nice to tell them to ram it.
If I'm ever asked to train my replacement, I'll just walk away. At-will employment works both ways.
Its true that companies do shitty things but more likely than not, she wasn't passed up for the promotion because of her age but because of the way she works and acts People that have been in a company for a long time don't like change and do what is needed to coast as oppos...
No. It wasn't. Anyway, crack on.
This person just makes shit up for content. They have tons of these bitter employee stories circulating and it's obviously not all based on their actual life. Also this particular tale they're spinning isn't even about being replaced. They didn't get the promotion, but they al...
Honest question I've never seen answered with this particular case. Was she asked to train the other employee in the job she also applied for or was she asked to train them in her job she currently does? Because those are wildly different requests and when paired with some of ...
Yes to all this…but on the flip… I’m so tired of teaching gen xers and boomers how to do basic ass computer functions. That’s not my job.
The condescending ageism I've experienced from Boomers and Gen X in the workplace because I'm a millennial and therefore perpetually 11 to these people. Oh right, ageism only exists if you're in AARP...
I wonder if we are hearing the whole story. Why would they pick someone so young to replace here? Did she get along at work or unpleasant to work with? I am close to the same age as her, but she looks 20 years older than me and not very modern. A professional look helps a l...
She had no experience , when asked how long the younger employee had been at the company she said she didn’t know . Lady the job doesn’t belong my to you and you got 6 months . They must have really wanted you gone
I honestly think younger people receive far far more age discrimination than the old. You can have a baby or die in a war but not buy alcohol or rent a car? Dont even get me started on how young voting is repressed. And at least our media acknowledges discrimination against th...
She is *very clearly* reading an AI script. I wonder how much of this actually happened the way she’s describing it.
Reality check: she didn’t get the job because her attitude sucked long before she applied for the promotion.
I dont know about this individual but I do run into a whole lot of these types. Decent workers but pissed about being passed over or getting poor appraisals because they are shitty to work with, rub people wrong, and are poor communicators.
Wonder if I could get my wife to do that. Honey go get a good one and bring her home.
Although perhaps cruel, would it be legally prohibited ageism if the company let her go because it found a machine that could do her job at half the cost? If not, then why would it be ageism if they found a newly minted graduate who could do her job at half the cost?
I would agree if the new hire had been fit for the role but she needed proper training. You don’t train your new boss: you tell them what the existing work routine is
It's not the replacement that's the problem. It's being asked to train someone for a job that you weren't deemed capable of yourself.
This is a "false equivalence" fallacy. Replacing a worker with a machine is not the same as replacing a worker with a younger person. Replacing labor with technology is a productivity decision; replacing an older worker with a younger one because they’re cheaper is a selection...
On one hand, yeah this sucks. On the other, people staying in their positions for goddamn ever nowadays is an actual problem, because it means the people below them are never able to advance.
You’re mad because people have careers? What do you want them to do?
That's a rough looking 58
This does not happen to men, or at least it did not until the recent past and near future. Now everyone will have to accept their institutional knowledge becoming absolute trash to their employers. As soon as AI does the same thing the men will upset.