Citizens United is the worst decision the Supreme Court ever made
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Or at least when they’re taxed as much as your average person.
I'll be downvoted, but the truth is that corporations don't "pay taxes." Any tax a corporation incurs is simply passed on to the consumer through higher prices and reduced wages/headcount. I'm not advocating for trickle-down economics, this is just how it works.
Why not both...
They're taxed as much as billionaires
Dred Scott was pretty bad
seriously. OP's headline is a ....choice.
Plessy v. Ferguson, Korematsu, and Buck v. Bell weren't great either!
That was overturned by the 13th and 14th amendments though.
Money has no mouth from which to speak.
And yet it speaks louder than anything else in American society.
If you are remotely serious about reform in this area, you can't stop after just one step away from the status quo. Without revisiting everything back to *Buckley v Valeo*, this society will continue to see corporate special interests dominating the funding of mainstream part...
and that realistically won't ever happen. america was doomed a long time ago, possibly from its inception. enjoy your time living through a failed experiment!
Everything all the way back to the first thing that decided that corporate personhood was actually valid: a misinterpretation of the 14th amendment in the Santa Clara County versus South Pacific Railroad Company case in the late 1800s. Then that led to the Dodge versus Ford ...
There are currently efforts underway to undo Citizens United state by state: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-corporate-power-reset-that-makes-citizens-united-irrelevant/ Montana, California and Maryland all have pending legislation and others might too.
Other states are too scared the corporations will run off, because they probably will. Texas will just bend over backwards for them.
Worst decision for the rental class, for the stakeholder class? Best lobby money ever spent in the history
Yes it is. We need three core reforms: 1. Publicly funded elections 2. Trickle up economics. Flip the incentives to consumers. Consumers drive the economy. 3. Term limits
We had publicly funded elections in Canada for 20 years (now abolished) and honestly I don't know if it made that much difference. The fringe parties got a lot more money but it didn't translate into more seats. What does make a huge difference is a ban on donations from non-...
Blame Chief Justice Roberts. He had the deciding vote and claimed... "... I don't believe that this will open the floodgates of money into US politics."
What a moron
Under the constitution as it currently stands it was the right decision, but it just one of many examples to show why there needs to be further amendments if not a complete rewrite.
Correct. Corporations are just groups of people united by a common cause, binders of legal documents, and some assets owned by (usually) another group of people. But mostly they're people.
That's just like your opinion man
This right here. The case was decided correctly according to the constitution - which is all the court is supposed to do. It should have then been up to the legislature to see that gap in the law as it stood at the time, and take steps to fix it - but of course that never ha...
Potentially the most destructive to the US over the long term, but I'll still grant the title of "worst" to the Republican judges on SCOTUS who invented magical crime immunity that was suddenly needed for their incoming felon, about 240 years after the Constitution was written...
Citizens United never said "corporations are people". It said they are made up of people who have as much right to collectively express their opinions, and yes, spend their money, on any political candidate they choose. This puts them on level ground with the ACLU, unions, n...
You’re right that the majority opinion (penned by Kennedy) framed corporations as 'associations of citizens.' However, the 'nuance' that often gets lost is where the money comes from. That is really the big change with the decision. Before Citizens United, corporations and...
Citizens United was not a pro-corporate personhood case. Corporate personhood was a doctrine designed to limit the rights of corporations so they didn’t have all of the same rights as real persons, and citizens united was about piercing the veil to give corporations rights tha...
https://www.citizen.org/article/by-the-numbers/ Some info on repealing it.
It doesn't have to be the worst to be very, very bad.
If Citizens United makes corporations people, then they should pay taxes and be held accountable to the laws. Of course that would mean 99.99999% of corporations/businesses would be jailed. Including the people in charge of private prisons. How about we just get rid of citiz...
Been saying this for years. They legalized bribery and the country has gotten worse and worse. A lot of these corporations and PACs fund both democrats and republicans. They don’t care who wins as long as they own them. I want fixed amounts of money spent on campaigns like t...
Who is going to reform it when it is fully supported by DNC and GOP? All the politicians love their money. Whole system is a fucking joke
People do not talk about or understand CU enough
so far.
Don't forget the precursor: Buckley v Valeo
Bump because obvious
When Obama said as much during a State of the Union, Some SCOTUS member shook their heads in disagreement. Including Sotamayor. >“I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities.” Last week’s Supr...
The Citizens United decision was based on corporations being people.. I propose a change: if a corporation wants to have the rights of a person, then they must pay taxes based on how an individual pays taxes. Now if they reject being a person, instead exist solely as a corp...
Menudos traidores teneis de corte suprema
This would be more persuasive if the title matched the image. Citizens United was not the ruling that enshrined corporate personhood.
There’s dread Scott. And Bush v Gore. But it’s definitely top five.
This was always my argument. If penalties aren't applied the same, why should businesses and people share the same benefits?
Money isn't speech because someone with money isn't deserving of a louder voice than someone without money. You want more speech? Pay into the pot, and then divide the pot between everyone with a message.
Gonna be waiting a looooong time.
Ha. Yeah, so many corporations are guilty of crimes against humanity.
If they are people when shouldn't any company under 16 yo be non taxable? Every 15 years a new shell will br created and the old company will sell everything g to the new one for $1 and start the clock over.
Well tied with putting a president above the law for official acts. What's official? Whatever the fuck they say it is.
Money is commerce and entirely regulatable. What fuckwads.
Let me push on this position a bit. Would it be ok for congress to pass a law, or an agency enact a regulation, that prohibits donors in a blue state like California from donating to political candidates in swing districts in purple states? Or do you think there should be a w...
Corporations are people my friend
Never forget the ACLU supported it as well
perghaps: Shareholders go to jail for a proportional amount of time based on the amount of ownership they have in the company. If you own 50% of the company and the company goes to jail for 100 years, you go to jail for 50 years.
Finally a meme about what I keep saying.
No one has claimed corporations are *black* people though.
yeah, but the dredd scott decision just might still be worse
It’s where they took our country
People need to learn how to read legislation titles. They rarely mean what they say at face value. Usually they are just straight up obviously lying with opposites. Let's break down the name; Citizens, clearly this is going to benefit Corporations, not Citizens. United, this ...
Texas bends over backwards and felates corporations.
The republican supreme court allowed unlimited money to funnel towards politicians and then made bribing judges, I mean "tipping" judges, legal. Crazy set of coincidences huh? Not sure how that makes us great though...🤔 Definitely helps the people in the Epstein files though...
it's not top 10 unless you think american history started two decades ago.
the worst decision.....................up to today
Tbf dissolution is often called the corporate death penalty and states do that often enough.
Not even close.
No, it wasn’t. It was terrible, but Dred Scott was exponentially worse.
No I think Dodge versus Ford which said the only thing corporate management could do was increase shareholders value was worse because then they were barred from serving the public good
Really? I think it's the ones where they decided that 'you can join an armed, well-regulated militia' actually means 'any selfish idiot with an unstable relative who knows where they keep their gun can stash as many murder weapons as they want'. More than a few dead children w...
And it ain’t even close
I too hate what has happened in politics because of Citizen's United. But the answer isn't to repeal it. There were some very real concerns with the alternative side of the coin as well. The debate over Citizens United is often framed as a binary choice: either we allow ...
Yet.
What an EPIC protest poster!!
didnt the supreme court once rule that being black made you not a person and thus it was ok to do what ever you wanted to them?
They told money cant buy happiness but it sure senators so im confused whats the difference
But the words “citizens united” sounds so good! Just like “no child left behind.” And “right to work.” Ugh
Honestly as much as I hate single issue voters I would definitely be one for someone who made their platform "corporations are not people."
_Citizens United_ had almost nothing to do with corporate personhood. The finding of _Citizens United_ was that the government could not censor political speech on the basis of its budget.
I used to think the Supreme Court was independent of politics. That those judges sat and made uncorrupted decisions based entirely on the constitution and their learned interpretation of that document. That in this way they were a critical force in protecting we the people f...
Corporations are people goes back to a Supreme Court decision in 1886, Santa Clara Vs southern Pacific Railroad.
There should be a whole set of capital crimes for corporations, that require the corporation be shut down and all assets given to the victims.
So far....
Citizens United is fine. Free speech is not worse than internment camps.