Corporate Adviser Says the Ideal Number of Human Employees at a Business Is Zero
An outspoken cybersecurity engineer and AI booster has sparked massive outrage after claiming that the ideal, natural, clean, happy state for any firm is to have exactly zero human workers. Arguing that corporations are actively trying to reach this goal, he believes AI is simply finishing what the Industrial Revolution started.
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As long as the includes the CEOs and every level of management, I'm fine with that idea.
For the number to be 0 it would have to. There will no longer be management there will just be owners and robots.
You’re fine with the capital owning class just automating everything and creating a planet that’s essentially one giant ghetto except for them? The managers are often just in debted petite bourgeois and themselves a few paychecks from losing it all too. Capitalism will absol...
It should also include ownership. Absolutely no human share holders. If that's the case, I'm fine with it. No one works, corps fight to provide us service, we are truly equal.
Do CEOs really not understand that if there are no employees, then nobody has money. If nobody has money, then nobody can buy shit. If nobody buys shit, then the companies go out of business. If they really want their bullshit capitalist system to continue, then they need paid...
They do know though. It’ll make the rest of us fight for scraps. I have yet to see anyone do anything so it seems it’s working. 🤷
They can’t think big picture. They all just want to gamble on being the only one. If they are the company that doesn’t have employees, they save costs and sell their products to all the people who work at different companies. They never stop to think “what happens if all compa...
It’s a flaw in capitalism. If your company is the only one not fully automated then you go out of business as you can’t compete. So everyone try’s to automate. But if everyone automates then there’s no jobs and companies go under. The only way to stop it would be for the gover...
So prices will drop dramatically right…..Right?!?!
And they will support UBI as part of their vast savings... Right..?
Of course not!
The preferred method of pay that capitalism preferes is none. It demands slaves be greateful for being captured and considered worthy of being enslaved n the first place. You cannot reason with deliberate parasitism, only attempt to remove it by any means necessary.
Do it. See how long your company lasts.
start removing the CEO's, the rest of the C Suite, then top level executives, then just stop and let us continue our work productively
That can't be right, we've been told all along that the companies are job creators.
Banks have already said that this would collapse the economy. Just trying to do this would destroy the entire system.
Mathematically we could enter a system where the top 15% control the vast majority of consumption and companies adjust by producing mostly luxury products. It’s been moving that way for a while. But of course people will rip a system like that down.
Does that mean CEO of the company will open and close the shutters of the company, Mob the floor too. 😂
He thinks it will be ai and robots. No humans nessissary.
Labor is the most expensive input to the profit equation and shareholders demand ever increasing profits in a world of finite resources. The industrial revolution increased that rate of profit, yes, but the underlying economic system must be considered. Eliminating human work...
Eliminating the **cost** of human labor is the goal, not eliminating human labor.
Meet George Jetson.
The machines can't repair the machines and the machines we are building are junk in the first place.
If AI is finishing what the industrial revolution started, then we need a new Ned Ludd to finish what the Luddites started.
All of these freaks ideal company has no employees, doesn’t do anything, and is worth 20 trillion dollars. They live in a complete fantasy.
tell me that a Corprate advisor never has worked in a real production facility without telling me that he has never worked in a real production facility?
As long as it includes CEO and board of directors, then its fine. Then corporation ceases to exist and the world is better off. So go ahead corporate world, Google, Microslop, Apple, Amazon, make the change.
The ideal number of billionaires is also zero.
Cool, and what about human customers?
Go away! ‘baitin’.
So if there's no humans working, and it's all being run by AI, then AI should provide services to humans for free. No operating loss, right?
It sounds like joke I would say to my parents as we were having dinner after coming home from their jobs as elementary school teachers and they were telling war stories about the annoying things the kids were doing "It sounds like the perfect school is the one without any stud...
And the ideal cost of everything is free! And it should rain hot chocolate and hail marshmallows!
Yes thats literally the end game for capitalism
So how does the trickling down work?
I must have missed this part while getting my MBA…
That does include the exec's. They're also employees!
Corporations are people too.
I wonder what the ideal number of customers with no money is?
So after everyone is fired on masse who do they think will be the customers?
Same number as ideal bosses too
This is the same as saying “the most secure software is no software”. Sure, technically right, but not realistic.
Which is fine if there is a concrete plan for how to handle the people who no longer have jobs. We can't all just "go into a trade."
Human capital is always the highest cost. So from a numbers only perspective, with no critical thinking of who the customers would be, that’s an accurate statement I guess.
I mean, it is. Zero cost, infinite profit is the ideal.
"Cool so when are you quitting"
So, does this genius... this TITAN of industry, this Einstein of the modern day, this self made Tesla... know what his customer base will be?
Alright boys pack it up we're done.
So...what the fuck are we meant to do and how does the economy operate then?
How do these CEOs expect anyone to even buy their shit then? You can’t sell products to slaves who are always working. There’s a finite amount of wealthy people in the world and don’t want anyone cutting in on their action as it is.
So the ideal number of customers must also be 0 then.
Cool. So when the AI inevitably does something silly like delete a bunch of data, send a garbage text email out to every client, fail to monitor a key piece of safety equipment or just decide to stop working, all these geniuses will have a solution for us then and will actuall...
Safety margins are unneccessary expences to capitalism.
Corporate adviser advises no employees needed to make/sell their garbage products. Corporate adviser advises employed people needed to buy/subscribe their garbage products.
At that point it's just shareholders begging for money.
Who do these CEOs expect to buy their crap
Including the corporate advisor.
That’s so funny! As a human employee I’ve often said that the ideal number of corporate advisors is zero.
This guy should stop talking and just do it. I can't wait to see the results.
I mean thats the ideal number employees around the world. Isnt this exactly what AI was meant to do? Take our jobs so we can chill.
I'm convinced that part of the deal to buy these AI models comes with a discount if you bragg about this BS Ultimately they want it to reduce labor costs but even if it's not successful it will have done it's job if it convinces all of us that we have to accept lower wages si...
Good. Gift us UBI and we’ll be on our way.
This should start with this advisor.
The funny part is that AI should ultimately replace the most expensive, least productive parts of a company. The C Suite. You have AI with intakes data and outputs decisions based on the best data without bias for self interest or enrichment. Then you have the lowest cost la...
As a fellow Cybersecurity Engineer, this tells me this dude is a blow hard. Yes, the biggest threat to security is between the chair and the screen, but that's both job security and the least likely thing to malfunction.
If we’re getting paid a UBI, that’s fine by me
...does that include replacing "corporate advisors"?
Ugh. I’m so tired of this AI craze. Either do it already and eliminate the jobs or shut the fuck up already.
Dos he have a job? I think his should be the first to go.
And when they have no use for us, then what?
Weird way of articulating that the current state of Corporate Capitalism doesn’t work.
All the employees are gone, its perfect. It's a perfect business having no employees. The future of a planet without people making their homes there. From the board room straight into the garbage can labeled 'time '. On the way out for the top: golden pair of shoop, golden shoop.
The ideal number of consumers of that company’s product or services is zero. Along with revenues and profits.
Ideally that would be the start of a thought experiment followed by... "but that's not realistic, so here's how we increase efficiency of who we do have"... but i guess now it's realistic...