how do you cope with with teaching and disciplining 19 year longtime super seniors?
the ones I have feel they don't have to listen to me because they are grown adults. they don't get emotional or anything but recently ignore me. one of them was born on dec 2006 making him older than all the students at my high school.
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I miss the days when those types were given the option of flying under the radar or being kicked out
I failed mine for US History. Didn’t do a single assignment. Failed every test and missed too many days. The guidance office sent me an e mail to see if I could get his to pass. I wrote back: No. Principal asked me to pass him: I asked him to reverse roles with me and see w...
You're willingness to "fail him" (i.e., give him the grade he earned) was probably a big factor in waking him up and considering his options seriously which led him to the AF.
At my school, if they are a problem and are over 18, they are shown the door.
Do they have an IEP? If so, follow the IEP. No IEP? If they're not disruptive, just grade them fairly and move on.
IEP or no, he’s an adult now. Adult behavior comes with adult consequences.
"Hey Pete, if you want to graduate before you are able to legally drink booze you might want to pay attention".
Not everyone is from the US though lol. In most places the legal drinking age is 18
Let them fail. You can't want an education for your students, at least a little bit has to come from them. And then document, document, document every time they choose not to work towards graduation. They're a super senior for a reason, and that reason isn't you.
This goes for every student at some point. If there's no self motivation or self determination there's not a lot someone can do to help.
I've had 20, 21 year old students even when I was a new teacher. No issues. I'm the teacher in the room and they are the students. Same as now that I'm older and every one of my admin is younger than me and two of them could have been my students.
I teach at an alternative school and a lot of my students are overage. I just tell them to leave. They are too old to be here and messing around. Luckily my admin supports this approach.
You’re simply top tier for having that job. What I would give to hear some of your stories 😮💨
My high school passed them all out during the Covid shutdown
“You know, a lot of people go to college for 7 years” “I know, they’re called doctors”
In this day and age “poor” is probably more accurate
"you're right, you don't have to. But I'm trying to help you get your diploma. If you don't want my help then you always have the option to leave and get your GED instead"
Teaching? I treat them like any other student. Same with discipline. I'll give them the same chances to fix their behavior as any other student. If they want to argue, I'm not engaging in the power struggle, I'll simply have them removed.
I showed my classes of seniors (with some super seniors) graphs of average lifetime earnings by degree. When they start acting like fools, I remind them of the difference in earnings. “Is *this* worth $300,000? Can you sit down, shut up, and learn some science for three more m...
I’ve had a couple of kids repeating senior year to finish credits and they are usually nice kids with poor attendance
Just be real with them. Speak from a place of no judgement but bluntness “look man, you’re 19, I know you don’t really care about your future but you gotta eventually start. Life isn’t gonna wait. I feel the same way as you. I felt the same way when I was your age *and still f...
Write their grown asses up. 🤷🏻♂️
I currently teach at 20yo male and he gets treated the same as my other students.
Relationships s/
I have one in 10th grade born in 2005. They are unwilling to follow any direction
A 21 year old in grade 10? Is that not a liability of some sort?
My friend Josh was 21 in highschool. It was awesome having a buddy who could buy beer.
They have three choices: - fail and navigate life without a diploma - fail and get a GED - fail and come back next year (if they are of elgible age) Students with an IEP can be held back until they're 22 (I think), but no IEP means they are on their own after that 5th year.
Be real with them, consistently. “You can still succeed, and I can help you. But if you continue down this path, you won’t be able to afford internet, you won’t be able to afford games, and you won’t even be able to afford food that you like”.
I gave one class an assignment to work on outlining a section of the book to practice note taking. This freed me up to take an uncooperative, disruptive 18 year old on a scavenger hunt in the school. He didn’t know what we were doing at first what we were looking for, but we w...
you grade them like you do every other student. their age has nothing to do with it.
Kick them out.
I treat them the same as anyone else in class, except they might also get a hallway chat that includes a “you’re too old to be acting like this, get it together”. I’ve never had that not work in previous years, but I do know some this year around campus who simply wouldn’t car...
help i’m almost graduating college and im a 2006er
Maybe reshape the parameters. Assign independent study in poets that match generalized identities. The know-it-all 'adult' --> Walt Whitman; the misogynist -> Anne Sexton; the pot head --> John Hollander; the perplexed ADHD kid--> Richard Brautigan, and so on. ...
This is why kids should finish school prior to reaching 18.
Disciplining? Depends on how bad. Now that they are 19 their behaviors come with the consequences of being a legal adult. Reminding them of that and having the cops on speed dial often helps.
How would you feel about another year of high school? Ed Rooney
I’m a new teacher I accept dealing with them as part of the job but also ensure that potential candidates are not returning to my class by NOT failing them.
Let them mark time until EOY, give them a passing grade whether earned or not, and wish them a great life.
>give them a passing grade whether earned or not Nah, fail those losers.