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10d agoEducation

how do you cope with with teaching and disciplining 19 year longtime super seniors?

the ones I have feel they don't have to listen to me because they are grown adults. they don't get emotional or anything but recently ignore me. one of them was born on dec 2006 making him older than all the students at my high school.

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Disastrous_Ed_9648
Disastrous_Ed_9648· 10d ago

I miss the days when those types were given the option of flying under the radar or being kicked out

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9bsgkgif_hro
9bsgkgif_hro· 10d ago

I failed mine for US History. Didn’t do a single assignment. Failed every test and missed too many days. The guidance office sent me an e mail to see if I could get his to pass. I wrote back: No. Principal asked me to pass him: I asked him to reverse roles with me and see w...

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BraveTiger592
BraveTiger592· 10d ago

You're willingness to "fail him" (i.e., give him the grade he earned) was probably a big factor in waking him up and considering his options seriously which led him to the AF.

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Banker_6632
Banker_6632· 10d ago

At my school, if they are a problem and are over 18, they are shown the door.

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TeiJMerIg
TeiJMerIg· 11d ago

Do they have an IEP? If so, follow the IEP. No IEP? If they're not disruptive, just grade them fairly and move on.

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PepeH_ackeR
PepeH_ackeR· 10d ago

IEP or no, he’s an adult now. Adult behavior comes with adult consequences.

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BigBlacKsmi_th5196
BigBlacKsmi_th5196· 10d ago

"Hey Pete, if you want to graduate before you are able to legally drink booze you might want to pay attention".

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sikLychillly
sikLychillly· 10d ago

Not everyone is from the US though lol. In most places the legal drinking age is 18

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Frog_2669
Frog_2669· 10d ago

Let them fail. You can't want an education for your students, at least a little bit has to come from them. And then document, document, document every time they choose not to work towards graduation. They're a super senior for a reason, and that reason isn't you.

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LowAdministratoon238
LowAdministratoon238· 11d ago

This goes for every student at some point. If there's no self motivation or self determination there's not a lot someone can do to help.

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Bright_Tiger288
Bright_Tiger288· 10d ago

I've had 20, 21 year old students even when I was a new teacher. No issues. I'm the teacher in the room and they are the students. Same as now that I'm older and every one of my admin is younger than me and two of them could have been my students.

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NewCat616
NewCat616· 10d ago

I teach at an alternative school and a lot of my students are overage. I just tell them to leave. They are too old to be here and messing around. Luckily my admin supports this approach.

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IamAlOtOfMe23
IamAlOtOfMe23· 11d ago

You’re simply top tier for having that job. What I would give to hear some of your stories 😮‍💨

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Sharp_Tiger756
Sharp_Tiger756· 10d ago

My high school passed them all out during the Covid shutdown

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AUntieRuper_t
AUntieRuper_t· 11d ago

“You know, a lot of people go to college for 7 years” “I know, they’re called doctors”

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rapid-ghost7959
rapid-ghost7959· 10d ago

In this day and age “poor” is probably more accurate

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Angry_Raven848
Angry_Raven848· 10d ago

"you're right, you don't have to. But I'm trying to help you get your diploma. If you don't want my help then you always have the option to leave and get your GED instead"

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Fair_Fish722
Fair_Fish722· 11d ago

Teaching? I treat them like any other student. Same with discipline. I'll give them the same chances to fix their behavior as any other student. If they want to argue, I'm not engaging in the power struggle, I'll simply have them removed.

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Alternative-Shock775
Alternative-Shock775· 10d ago

I showed my classes of seniors (with some super seniors) graphs of average lifetime earnings by degree. When they start acting like fools, I remind them of the difference in earnings. “Is *this* worth $300,000? Can you sit down, shut up, and learn some science for three more m...

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Eager-Bird555
Eager-Bird555· 11d ago

I’ve had a couple of kids repeating senior year to finish credits and they are usually nice kids with poor attendance

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exha_ustmosk69
exha_ustmosk69· 10d ago

Just be real with them. Speak from a place of no judgement but bluntness “look man, you’re 19, I know you don’t really care about your future but you gotta eventually start. Life isn’t gonna wait. I feel the same way as you. I felt the same way when I was your age *and still f...

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espirx
espirx· 11d ago

Write their grown asses up. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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AccordungFrame_9985
AccordungFrame_9985· 10d ago

I currently teach at 20yo male and he gets treated the same as my other students.

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Cool_Otter
Cool_Otter· 10d ago

Relationships s/

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MothwingIsATreasur_e
MothwingIsATreasur_e· 11d ago

I have one in 10th grade born in 2005. They are unwilling to follow any direction

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KindWhale486
KindWhale486· 10d ago

A 21 year old in grade 10? Is that not a liability of some sort?

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1jf7zpw_uueeqd
1jf7zpw_uueeqd· 11d ago

My friend Josh was 21 in highschool. It was awesome having a buddy who could buy beer.

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Constany-Training996
Constany-Training996· 10d ago

They have three choices: - fail and navigate life without a diploma  - fail and get a GED - fail and come back next year (if they are of elgible age) Students with an IEP can be held back until they're 22 (I think), but no IEP means they are on their own after that 5th year.

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SubJect_Goat2122
SubJect_Goat2122· 10d ago

Be real with them, consistently. “You can still succeed, and I can help you. But if you continue down this path, you won’t be able to afford internet, you won’t be able to afford games, and you won’t even be able to afford food that you like”.

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breadboibtett
breadboibtett· 10d ago

I gave one class an assignment to work on outlining a section of the book to practice note taking. This freed me up to take an uncooperative, disruptive 18 year old on a scavenger hunt in the school. He didn’t know what we were doing at first what we were looking for, but we w...

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LivongHeart5227
LivongHeart5227· 10d ago

you grade them like you do every other student. their age has nothing to do with it.

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NoExchanGe_7821
NoExchanGe_7821· 10d ago

Kick them out.

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LivongHeart5227
LivongHeart5227· 10d ago

I treat them the same as anyone else in class, except they might also get a hallway chat that includes a “you’re too old to be acting like this, get it together”. I’ve never had that not work in previous years, but I do know some this year around campus who simply wouldn’t car...

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Viscuitgod_1
Viscuitgod_1· 10d ago

help i’m almost graduating college and im a 2006er

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zzikl6
zzikl6· 10d ago

Maybe reshape the parameters. Assign independent study in poets that match generalized identities. The know-it-all 'adult' --> Walt Whitman; the misogynist -> Anne Sexton; the pot head --> John Hollander; the perplexed ADHD kid--> Richard Brautigan, and so on. ...

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justma-again
justma-again· 10d ago

This is why kids should finish school prior to reaching 18.

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FlamesPinn
FlamesPinn· 11d ago

Disciplining? Depends on how bad. Now that they are 19 their behaviors come with the consequences of being a legal adult. Reminding them of that and having the cops on speed dial often helps.

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Emer_gencyArachnid734
Emer_gencyArachnid734· 10d ago

How would you feel about another year of high school? Ed Rooney

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newGrower_4200
newGrower_4200· 10d ago

I’m a new teacher I accept dealing with them as part of the job but also ensure that potential candidates are not returning to my class by NOT failing them.

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IamAlOtOfMe23
IamAlOtOfMe23· 10d ago

Let them mark time until EOY, give them a passing grade whether earned or not, and wish them a great life.

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Happy-Tiger392
Happy-Tiger392· 10d ago

>give them a passing grade whether earned or not Nah, fail those losers.

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