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The wolves are complaining that the sheep aren’t breeding

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Angry_Fish338
Angry_Fish338· 29d ago

"Anything goes with Biden". Says a lot right there.

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Clear_Otter984
Clear_Otter984· 29d ago

They want the magical perfect immigrant. White, middle classed or higher, well educated, culturally compatible, but willing to be paid very little for shitty jobs and live in awful housing and be too ignorant of their rights to ever complain.

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PhoenixClever18
PhoenixClever18· 29d ago

I'm confused. Are they blaming Biden because Canadians aren't having enough babies?

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DiligentLibr_a87
DiligentLibr_a87· 29d ago

If you want humans to breed, make groceries, houses, and healthcare affordable. Make salaries high enough to cover cost of living for a family. Its not fucking rocket science.

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FoxBright64
FoxBright64· 30d ago

Or they can continue to price gouge you at every opportunity and either offshore the jobs or bring in immigrants to work those jobs for less than a domestic citizen would. Just to clarify I’m not against immigration I’m against people of all walks of life being continuously ...

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Chuck4_Md
Chuck4_Md· 29d ago

Make life stable enough that you can plan anything. Kids are a long term commitment that lasts beyond this quarter's earnings cycle.

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insocKniac
insocKniac· 29d ago

"But what about our shareholders? Our quarterly report doesn't matter to you?" /s

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flickeNc_hickens
flickeNc_hickens· 29d ago

ULine is generally terrible. And calls for economic cattle to fill the capitalist needs is nothing new.

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Cat_1325
Cat_1325· 30d ago

Hah we were leafing through the uline catalog at work the other day and I was pointing out how outrageously overpriced a lot of their products are. Like one thing was a plastic hand cart like you’d use at the grocery store but it had an extendable handle and wheels to pull aro...

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Lostmechine
Lostmechine· 30d ago

Northern Illinois person here. Fuck uline.

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Tomeblanco_923
Tomeblanco_923· 29d ago

And she forgot to mention the millions her and her husband have given conservatives over the years that have help to form the current policies.

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cueyusgrg
cueyusgrg· 29d ago

Call a spade a spade; "We need humans to *buy* our stuff. The warehouses that use AI /robotics don't order consumables like gloves, PPE, restroom materials, hardhats and entrance mats like human-operated ones do. We need *employees* to pay minimum wage and work ragged to maint...

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6645_iyun
6645_iyun· 29d ago

They already found a workaround. Uline got caught committing immigration/ VISA fraud by shipping Mexican employees to the US warehouses under ‘worker training VISAs’ only to have them work regular warehouse jobs for long hours. Womp womp. Seems like they want harsh immigrati...

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Dapper_TrAdition_987
Dapper_TrAdition_987· 29d ago

Maybe if people could work a job for 15 years and retire with a pension, while being able to afford a house they may be more inclined to have kids. Elizabeth Uihlein is so out of touch. It reminds me earlier in my career when my boss told me I shouldn't be so stressed from h...

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Local_Inbication9668
Local_Inbication9668· 29d ago

"We also pay very well." - Yeah, I'll bet. Note that this is an afterthought, mentioned only after how "beautiful" their warehouses are... inadvertently reveals where they place employee welfare.

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YtnLilTriLl
YtnLilTriLl· 30d ago

Any bets that it’s $1.00 over minimum wage and she thinks that’s crazy high pay? …when that would be under $18k a year, which is hard to eat and keep a car running on, much less pay rent. Kids? Hahahaha ^hahaha *wheeze*

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keen_lemon6150
keen_lemon6150· 30d ago

If they paid well, they wouldn't have a staffing problem

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CornarOfficE08
CornarOfficE08· 29d ago

To be fair. They do pay decent. The flip side. You are being paid to deal with this crap. This letter isn’t even the full picture of the crap the employees have to deal with day to day. If you think your job is micro-managed, you’ve never worked at Uline (god forbid you use ...

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OtterGiddy19
OtterGiddy19· 30d ago

This lady is always whining but never wanting to actually do anything to make her company more appealing to work for, and keeps throwing money at horrible candidates and policies. A perfect example of how you can be genuinely horrible at your role but the company has such stro...

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RelaTive_Specific143
RelaTive_Specific143· 29d ago

Did you not read it? She has heated/air-conditioned warehouses! What more could you want??

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MouTheOM88
MouTheOM88· 29d ago

"Dress code." Dude is wearing a tie for a call center job.

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WestErnCup7603
WestErnCup7603· 30d ago

When I applied, they wouldn't let you have tattoos, facial hair, or piercings... in 2015.

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ZayaFyre0
ZayaFyre0· 29d ago

I have heard women still have to wear nylons and heels every day. F that!

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Dark-Panda660
Dark-Panda660· 29d ago

The Canadian immigration system is an absolute mess right now. It’s only a shining example in this corporate leech’s eyes because they often receive kickbacks from the Canadian government for hiring TFWs (Temporary foreign workers) and thus suppressing wages and restricting ac...

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improbsable68
improbsable68· 29d ago

So, not that different than the USA. Basically an opportunity for a business to find an even more desperate soul and treat it more shittily than it would treat a locally-born worker. What's funny in light of this ad (from those batshit ULine people no less) is that the job m...

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DeathByFaRtz1996
DeathByFaRtz1996· 29d ago

💯 not to mention our infrastructure spending is insufficient when comparing to this huge influx, so our institutions, roads, basically anything public is crumbling underneath our feet.

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roya_ltyV3
roya_ltyV3· 30d ago

As a Canadian, this confirms a lot that I have already suspected. Mass immigration wasn't for the betterment of Canada; it was for the betterment of big business. Otherwise ULine would have had to increase their wages, and that would never do. As to her claim they pay well, I ...

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31yh8rtffp
31yh8rtffp· 30d ago

When Carney first got into office and he met with business leaders he said “their first concern was tariffs, their second concern was access to foreign labour.” The government will ofc screw over everyone involved who isn’t lobbying for a massive company.

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CleverBear_102
CleverBear_102· 30d ago

The Uihleins (Richard and Elizabeth) are billionaires and have been Republican donors for decades, particularly after Citizens United. Both are heavily right-wing, and Wikipedia puts him squarely in the far-right category. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Elizabeth_...

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hunyjoy
hunyjoy· 29d ago

Don't worry, they'll get their way and burn our planet before anyone is ever held accountable so I don't know anyone is making a fuss.

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ipIcksca_bs
ipIcksca_bs· 30d ago

Fuck it, they can't put my tubes back in. There ain't no forcing me to have kids and I bet a lot of other people are starting to go the same route too.

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deadeNd_exe
deadeNd_exe· 30d ago

They told us that we will own noting and be happy. Why most of us should bother making children when they are going to take them away anyway?

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imveryclave_r
imveryclave_r· 30d ago

Here's a nice resource page where you can find alternative places to shop for the stuff Uline sells. https://refuseuline.com/Alternative-Resources

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Feeling-Vuy2557
Feeling-Vuy2557· 29d ago

This is rambling nonsense. I feel like I shouldn’t be assembling a puzzle to figure out what these paragraphs mean…

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T_heOneThatObseRves
T_heOneThatObseRves· 29d ago

Never ever ever buy anything from these Nazis.

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st_ravocadomf
st_ravocadomf· 30d ago

You fix low birth rates by increasing immigration, oh wait...

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ThePaulAtreidess1
ThePaulAtreidess1· 29d ago

There are way too many humans on this planet. We are destructive in a way that no other species alive today could ever dream of being. I understand the need economically for each generation to come along to keep everything moving, but a slow down sounds like a great idea to me.

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insocKniac
insocKniac· 30d ago

It's Uline. The owners are right wing nutters. Their dresscode for offices is men in suits and women in skirts and tights year round (at least when i applied years back). The owner also showed up to the warehouse still under construction and threw a tantrum abput it being mess...

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DeepWolf969
DeepWolf969· 30d ago

To be fair, Uline in Milwaukee, which is likely where this is from, does pay its warehouse employees ~$30/hour, which is actually quite high for the area. My understanding is that the culture is hot dog shit, though. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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BrightFox7985
BrightFox7985· 29d ago

Absolutely no mention about why people are choosing not to have children, only the consequences that have an impact on thier business.

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Fi_ranka
Fi_ranka· 29d ago

"Surprisingly, some people know what 1.6 means. Equally surprising- some people do not know what it means" okay who wrote this? Dumbest writing I've seen.

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MouTheOM88
MouTheOM88· 29d ago

Strict drug policy let me introduce you to not enough younger workers.

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o3jc8tm3jj-lf2w9z0r
o3jc8tm3jj-lf2w9z0r· 29d ago

And it looks like many of those who do have kids in the US are heading for the exits, if they can. As a father, I scared to death for my kids' futures in this country.

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RMR12_6
RMR12_6· 30d ago

OMG I used to work for this right wing MAGA craphole company. She has been doing this for years. The owners of this company are dangerous and delusional. Avoid ULINE at all costs.

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DogRapid61
DogRapid61· 29d ago

Barely even had to read it before knowing it was Uline. What a garbage company.

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dreampoopers84
dreampoopers84· 29d ago

my grandparents: when are you two going to have kids? me: when am i going to afford a 6 bedroom 3 bath house with 80 acres, two vehicles, a few pets, a vacation once a year, and atleast a family night every month on a single income? grandparents: ............ This but wides...

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FuzzyEagle6348
FuzzyEagle6348· 29d ago

Boycott Uline, and then boycott all businesses that partner with Uline.

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SilentSlug_207
SilentSlug_207· 29d ago

Uihlein Translation: Please increase the labor supply so I don’t have to pay more to attract workers to my business.

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lilfaerie7
lilfaerie7· 29d ago

Pay enough and they will come.  There’s enough workers - they just don’t pay enough.  Also I thought AI is taking everyone’s jobs? Fewer jobs means fewer people are needed.

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Ok_Trash9649
Ok_Trash9649· 29d ago

I run a small business with my partner and we had to spend considerable time finding packaging not from ULINE. This woman is a legit crazy person and we couldn't have lived with ourselves if we enriched her company while running ours. It's a point of pride for many local ...

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ahaSian
ahaSian· 29d ago

I stopped buying from Uline years ago once I ran across this twatwaffle’s personal propaganda in each Uline catalog.

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Moth_4861
Moth_4861· 30d ago

Ugh, Liz is The Worst.

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OPposite-Hunter-4253
OPposite-Hunter-4253· 29d ago

Their phone CSRs have to wear ties? I've been in call center work for 20+ years in 3 different companies. We had/have dress codes, but at worst, I've had to wear a t-shirt and jeans. Even our leadership mostly wears polos and such. If I'm sitting tethered to a desk for 8-10 ho...

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csAn_yk
csAn_yk· 29d ago

Give me 100k a year raise and we can talk kids

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OtterSmooth17
OtterSmooth17· 30d ago

The elites spent decades saying were not entitled to food, housing, education, etc. So I guess they aren't entitled to us having children to continue this terrible system. It works both ways.

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csAn_yk
csAn_yk· 29d ago

Liz Uihlein is a MAGA nut-job and just an all around terrible person. I know a bunch of people that have worked for Uline, and they have all said it is the worst job they have ever had.

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ObviouslyReaLPersob
ObviouslyReaLPersob· 30d ago

Keep our country's name out of your filthy mouth - Sincerely a Canadian.

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Jolly-Whale639
Jolly-Whale639· 29d ago

I stopped reading at "Uline"

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Camille_Yun10
Camille_Yun10· 30d ago

Fuck the Uihleins.

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New-Badger97
New-Badger97· 29d ago

They gave Trump $100 million and treat their employees like garbage and have a five day in office shirt and tie dress code. Fuck that family.

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OtterNifty15
OtterNifty15· 29d ago

This is one of the top funders of MAGA dude. Look em up. They’re as bad as the DeVos family.

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RadianrLove1230
RadianrLove1230· 29d ago

MAKE. US. MORE. SLAVES. And then we can blame you for having kids you couldn't afford.

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Sam_wellBarley
Sam_wellBarley· 29d ago

Why does there need to be a dress code, strict drug policy, and inflexible working hours at a warehouse in ass end of nowhere? This isn't brain surgery. Look, I wouldn't want a forklift operator to come to work drunk (though, I suspect alcohol is actually allowed under their ...

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SillyPotato28
SillyPotato28· 29d ago

If they want people to have kids they need to make sure people are financially stable and feel comfortable with the cost and responsibility. At the moment the average person is near or below the poverty line with how little jobs want to pay.

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PhoenixBrave60
PhoenixBrave60· 29d ago

I couldn't get past the awful writing in this to make counterfactuals...

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HappyShadow140
HappyShadow140· 30d ago

At least uline is always consistently tone deaf . I mean they are ghouls but they don't lie about it

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Spidson
Spidson· 29d ago

Ah Liz, one of my favorite reads, from someone who likely has not had to toil a day in her life!

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PhoenixBrave60
PhoenixBrave60· 30d ago

Let's have more babies until we're sure we won't need them thanks to AI*.

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SillyPotato28
SillyPotato28· 29d ago

even during dual fuedal times, there were much more incentives to have kids than today

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Fuzxy_Tough_27
Fuzxy_Tough_27· 30d ago

Fuck the Uihleins.

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Datboi_89
Datboi_89· 29d ago

Uline is a POS company and my company tries their hardest to NEVER support them.

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Inner_Chamistry8971
Inner_Chamistry8971· 30d ago

“Not enough younger employees” Have you tried offering better pay and benefits, Liz?

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Dulk-Artichoke-2313
Dulk-Artichoke-2313· 29d ago

People get babies when they trust they will be able to provide for them. The US can easily improve birth statistics by lowering costs for raising children. But that would mean a loss of corporate profits short term so let’s import workers from elsewhere. The world migration is...

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Zen_Cat307
Zen_Cat307· 29d ago

Who do they suppose cleans their warehouses? Mean maximum Summer temperatures in the ninties, but *some* warehouses are airconditioned. Mean minimum winter temperatures in the minus thirties, no mention of heating.  Let me guess *which* warehouses are struggling to retain ...

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zzilk6
zzilk6· 29d ago

As bad as it is, this represents progress from these folks. Criticizing both Biden and Trump is a big step. They run some of the biggest warehouses in the country and need immigrant labor badly. The business model is built on it.

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Dark_River880
Dark_River880· 29d ago

When Canadian businesses can hire people under min wage, they will ONLY hire those people. Meaning Canadian kids and teens can’t get starter jobs. The unemployment rate for teens - 25 years in Canada is 14.2%

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Happy-Wolf448
Happy-Wolf448· 29d ago

I d bet the rent, Uline entry level pay is poor.

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SpringtroNic315
SpringtroNic315· 29d ago

I just read this today!

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CalmBear386
CalmBear386· 29d ago

"In warm areas, like Ontario, Ca...." says some dumbass who has clearly never been to Canada

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CalmMoose540
CalmMoose540· 30d ago

Your businesses will rot because we don't give a shit anymore about replacement rate. You can choke on all that AI you're investing in....

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SaizedClod22
SaizedClod22· 30d ago

Canadian citizens (and citizens in every Western nation) aren't having kids because housing and life in general is unaffordable and their governments are importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year who make heavy use of public assistance and make things even MORE ...

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JisTin_Godfrey
JisTin_Godfrey· 30d ago

I hate her so much.

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9oyhwn0rq-5yhwu9
9oyhwn0rq-5yhwu9· 29d ago

It took me way too much reading to realize this was from U-Line and not a drunk rant from Bucky the Badger.

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Bawx_of_chawclets41
Bawx_of_chawclets41· 29d ago

The Uihlien family donated money to build a soccer complex on the Northside of Milwaukee. I play indoor soccer at that complex. During COVID, they shut down mid session and all teams were asked if they wanted to donate a prorated portion of their session fee to the park or jus...

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StRiking-Sea_129
StRiking-Sea_129· 29d ago

Ha ha ha. I just read this today. We get Uline catalogues all the time at my office and I ALWAYS turn to the back to see what insane boomer rant she’s written this time. The last few have been about issues Uline has with getting employees and keeping employees. A previous on...

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Ok_Neck9371
Ok_Neck9371· 30d ago

The boomer gen is the biggest generation in human history, as they die off the number of people needed as a whole goes down because you have less people, it's not a hard concept to figure out.

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mylykis_s
mylykis_s· 29d ago

in his opinion overturning RvW, Justice Thomas literally refers to the declining birth rate as a reason why we shouldn't be able to have rights.

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DarkMountain701
DarkMountain701· 29d ago

Hasn't trump killed off a bunch of jobs, particularly in manufacturing? Feb jobs report wasn't great.

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beeemkcl15
beeemkcl15· 29d ago

You can always count on Liz Uihlein for an absolutely dog shit opinion.

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wiRedmagazine38
wiRedmagazine38· 29d ago

Isn't she the one who complained about people not staying loyal to their companies? Also, they have a reputation for a corporate culture of micromanagement

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S_gtSoggySac
S_gtSoggySac· 29d ago

American democracy: a system where citizens elect who manages their contributions to the defense budget.

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rajApaws17
rajApaws17· 30d ago

“We’re not having enough babies to replace people who are retiring!” Meanwhile myself and other every 20-something new grad takes months or years to get a single entry level job, ghosted or auto rejected without anyone even reading your resume.

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granddolphin2077
granddolphin2077· 29d ago

Uline owners are right-wing assholes. Fuck them and all of their opinions.

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Angry-Lion585
Angry-Lion585· 29d ago

Yes, young people love a dress code and a strict drug policy for the honor of working in a warehouse.

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RB7Network
RB7Network· 29d ago

I knew it was the ULINE lady as soon as I saw the format. She's batshit

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totallyhumanhonest78
totallyhumanhonest78· 30d ago

Ugh, the owners of Uline are gross

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ANEB0ME
ANEB0ME· 30d ago

The words to describe this screed are as follows: Patronising, condescending, arrogant, delusional and oblivious. Not *once* did she ask *why* are less people having kids. Not once. But we've got all the lovely warehouses, they're sooooo lovely. Come work for whatever minimu...

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COmmunicationIcy744_3
COmmunicationIcy744_3· 30d ago

Got the part about locations, saw Allentown, and wondered "What are you paying", because I'm familiar with pay rates in the area. Then I saw "Uline", and it all made sense. Their problem isn't lack of workers. It's being a shitty company nobody wants to work for, especially w...

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Quiet_Dragon
Quiet_Dragon· 29d ago

This woman/company always has unhinged things to say. This is not the first post from something she said.

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SamPark
SamPark· 29d ago

The owner is a big MAGA supporter

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aupk6u66_0n8
aupk6u66_0n8· 30d ago

I can't believe they referenced Canada...

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CornarOfficE08
CornarOfficE08· 30d ago

Anyone have an alternative to Uline? I hate that I buy so much from them at work

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1dgbq4b49b_nd3oq6yk
1dgbq4b49b_nd3oq6yk· 29d ago

I do hate the always smuggled assumption that servitude to others is "inherently good". And more is better? The idea of people being free to look after themselves, not trapped into servitude because the tons of plentiful resources are fenced off by greedy tyrants. "We need ...

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Camille_Yun10
Camille_Yun10· 29d ago

Your title is not the point of her essay. Did you actually read it? No snark intended.

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Feeling-Vuy2557
Feeling-Vuy2557· 29d ago

Fuck uline. They're trumpster

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ObviouslyReaLPersob
ObviouslyReaLPersob· 30d ago

Wake up, babe. ULINE’S new unhinged propaganda letter dropped.

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Justin_Godfrey17
Justin_Godfrey17· 29d ago

Why this this office slop vendor engaged weird immigration propaganda using her company's name??

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jiwonkwxn57
jiwonkwxn57· 30d ago

These jerks want you to keep having kids while allowing AI to take all the jobs. Who pays for them? Corps are wanting their profits to keep going up and the only way to increase them is by adding to the population.

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BraveBanker_651
BraveBanker_651· 29d ago

"We've made the world so that you and your spouse have to work overtime just for basic necessities, we've made childcare and healthcare unattainable, polluted the land, air, and water, monitor your every move everywhere you go, and education is designed to permanently trap you...

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Disastrous_Ed_9648
Disastrous_Ed_9648· 30d ago

Young Americans: We can't afford to have kids. CEOs: But *we* can't afford to have you not have kids!!

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isEeyoo100
isEeyoo100· 29d ago

Par for the course for these Uline screeds. Surprisingly tame for Liz, actually, compared to some past ones I’ve seen.

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BrightViper3805
BrightViper3805· 29d ago

ULINE (the company) is a massive Trump supporter. Fuck em.

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CBSnews17
CBSnews17· 29d ago

Ah yes, we need more young people to feed the capitalist machine. Bezos needs a fourth luxury yacht and Elon can't seem to burn enough fuel in his private jet. What we NEED, is healthcare, living wages, education, welfare and TAXATION OF THE FUCKING RICH!!!

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HinaXh4n
HinaXh4n· 29d ago

They think all the poor people are Sheep but not realizing that they forced Mountain Goats in the field as well, and goats ain't timid and WILL fight back, in a world that only wants sheep and Wolves, Be a Goat.

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AshNak_oN
AshNak_oN· 30d ago

Right wing company. They don’t care about anyone but themselves. Avoid.

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Moth_4861
Moth_4861· 29d ago

Brilliant. let's pay less or nothing to people and expect them to have children with purchasing power. fuck the upperclass

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fullstack_ung5
fullstack_ung5· 29d ago

Enrollment dropped from 1,700 to 1,400 because 300 kids died in school shootings.

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YtnLilTriLl
YtnLilTriLl· 29d ago

Maybe make the USA great again (living wages, time off, benefits, social safety nets, etc), or continue down the billionaire path and have a total collapse.

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StrikiNgDog7381
StrikiNgDog7381· 29d ago

This bitch.

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Paulybytes___89
Paulybytes___89· 29d ago

I'd have ten kids if I could afford them their housing, and necessities. I have as many kids as I can afford as a college graduate professional making "good money." Exactly zero kids.

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Happy-Shadow55
Happy-Shadow55· 30d ago

Can we just say "I'm paying you half" to our bills, groceries and subscriptions and expect them to still give is the same level of service? No. Then companies can't complain about "nobody wants to work" when they pay terrible wages. You get what you pay for.

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CRk76
CRk76· 29d ago

I don’t think this was written by a “wolf” lol just a garden variety moron

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