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Spidson
Spidson
28d agoEducation

It's all the Jews fault!

Welp, just started grading my classes research papers and one of my students went off topic to explain how the Jews are destroying America. It'll be effortless to fail the paper as there is no credible research done here. But I am actually shocked that I am sI learnedl dealing with the high school Edge-Lord thing after all these years. The migraine I had yesterday is starting to come back. Just tell me it's going to be ok, similar to the world I mean, only just tell me the world is going to be OK.

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DASFUN_POLICe
DASFUN_POLICe· 29d ago

Edge lords usually say that kinda stuff cause they think it's funny These days however there are some kids who unironically think and believe it, which is far scarier

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MinutE-Plantain23
MinutE-Plantain23· 29d ago

Survey results show that *most* young people believe it.

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MothSpicy53
MothSpicy53· 28d ago

I've seen the conspiracy bullshit come in waves through the students post-pandemic. First, they were disconnected: flat Earth, anti-vaccine, etc. Then they evolved. Kids tried (or rather listen to influencers try) to connect the conspiracy theories into a grand narrative which...

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Fair-Owl330
Fair-Owl330· 28d ago

Both right wing and left wing extremist creators (especially on TikTok) are hitting hard on anti-Israel content. The left wing tends to focus on the country and its leadership, while the right wing tends to use “the Jews” and the country at the same time, but the lines are bl...

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Calm_SignifIcance139
Calm_SignifIcance139· 28d ago

It’s actually a meme now. They call Netanyahu “Big Yahu” at my school lol. I told a kid he was failing and he was like “The Big Yahu is interfering with my academics mister!!”

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Sloani_3412
Sloani_3412· 29d ago

To be fair what he said is funny 😝

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Quick_Rooster57639
Quick_Rooster57639· 28d ago

It’s not antisemitism to criticize Israel or Netanyahu.

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xzIll6
xzIll6· 28d ago

And the Fat Orange is interfering with my income and peace of mind. Looks like the world interferes a lot, but I still come to work and do what I need to do — I’d tell the student that whether either of us likes it or not, we still have things to do.

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lost_medic60
lost_medic60· 28d ago

Related but opposite. I had an autistic student years ago that was so angered by Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust that he’d go to the library and check out books on WWII just to piss himself off. It’s be silent reading time and he’d just start yelling at the book. Man, I loved t...

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FalconKeen50
FalconKeen50· 28d ago

Valid, very valid. Lol.

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BearSwift54
BearSwift54· 28d ago

Yeah, Jewish teacher here in Middle School social studies - I can confirm that it's out of control. I've had to take a zero-tolerance stance on it, and any kid who starts spewing this just gets sent right out of class for the principal to deal with.

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vendingmakhinesus_hii
vendingmakhinesus_hii· 28d ago

Maybe you should have them arrested by enforcing all the new antisemitism laws.

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PlAnetwalls-2
PlAnetwalls-2· 28d ago

Had a student who must have forgotten I’m Jewish come up to me and say “Mr __________ you know a lot of stuff, what do you think of the JOOOS?” Just like that verbatim. I’ll never forget.

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Angry_Raven848
Angry_Raven848· 28d ago

I'm Jewish. My grandparents are holocaust survivors. For the first time in my career and I had to send kids out of the class for throwing up Nazi salutes in class. For the first time I had student, during the Holocaust unit where I explicitly say that denial will not be acce...

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CtcleCurIous4640
CtcleCurIous4640· 28d ago

If your grandmother is willing, please do a video interview about the holocaust. We had a holocaust survivor come to our history class when I was in high school. It was a memorable experience.

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north_cAnedian_ice
north_cAnedian_ice· 28d ago

Not only are there really no consequences, there's chance they can get rewarded. Thanks to Republicans, Neo-Nazis have more influence over government now than at any point since WWII.

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PandaBold22
PandaBold22· 28d ago

i don't think it's just edgy teens becoming more edgy because there are no consequences. the amount of genuine right wing extremists has risen a lot in adults aswell as teenagers over the last few years. they can see how a literal nazi salute at the official inauguration party...

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RelaTive_Specific143
RelaTive_Specific143· 28d ago

My sister is dating someone who believes this. We are culturally Jewish, we are just non practicing. He already wasn’t invited to my wedding due to a whole load of other reasons but even if those don’t exist, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my fiancés religious family.

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Bright-Raven215
Bright-Raven215· 28d ago

Good luck with that. Yeah, my brothers family are Jewish. This stings for me to see.

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dreampoopers84
dreampoopers84· 28d ago

Survey results consistently show that Gen Z is shockingly anti-Semitic. A huge percentage--like, more than a majority--view Jews as a threat to America.

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SamPark
SamPark· 28d ago

If you have the emotional resources: “heres an example of a paper that fails” and show how starting with a premise and researching backwards to answer your own bias leads to incorrect answer. How this is an example of cultish thinking and how groups misuse pretend research ...

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Mad-Tiger105
Mad-Tiger105· 28d ago

There will always be idiotic, insufferable people who are prejudiced. I do hope and think that we will have a return to reason at some point and that common sense prevails. History shows us that we have these radical swings followed by periods of normalcy. I'm hoping it comes ...

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aver_yR1993
aver_yR1993· 28d ago

2 years ago when I taught 7th grade ELA, we were reading an article that mentioned Hitler. Students asked who he was, so I briefly explained the holocaust and Nazi Germany. I had 3 students in that class who immigrated from Palestine, and they literally said “He killed Jews? Y...

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USDA_BARC-1912
USDA_BARC-1912· 29d ago

I mean if they were from Palestine the face of Judaism that they saw was not Anne frank but a IDF solder who might killed someone they knew (neighbor, family member etc), or a armed settler forcing them off their land. Shut it down and explain why that’s not ok 100% but also t...

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Stacke_r103
Stacke_r103· 28d ago

That’s the tough part! Because people in the Middle East (or with family from there) primarily think of Israel when they think of Jewish people, so of course they’d have such a reaction because they’re targets of an ongoing genocide. Mohamed Hadid (father to models Bella and ...

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kevinmrr79
kevinmrr79· 29d ago

I'm honestly not sure the world will be OK. The planet will be, it doesn't care. But the living things? I'm guessing not. But maybe they will be. Maybe this will be OK. Update: I guess things are locked. But the reply below lacks comprehension of my original comment. The plan...

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rajapaw_s
rajapaw_s· 29d ago

The planet is absolutely not okay. Oil has been on fire for a week straight, the US has about zero environmental protections since the EPA just removed all of them, they revoked incentives for renewable energy and are investing fully in fossil fuels including "clean coal." The...

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BoldMoose428
BoldMoose428· 28d ago

It's not going to be OK unless something big changes. Open antisemitism and antisemitic politics are normalized and we've been sounding the alarm for years.

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keimko_
keimko_· 28d ago

Sadly this is becoming extremely normalized now with the grow of anti-Semitism in this country.

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PepeH_ackeR
PepeH_ackeR· 28d ago

The fact that you are shocked is surprising, with the rise in anti Jewish bigotry we have all seen all over the world and especially in the US.  The Jewish community has been trying to raise awareness yet so many have minimized our experience or have turned to whataboutism, wh...

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BraveTiger592
BraveTiger592· 28d ago

We’ve been dealing with this too! It’s ridiculous, I don’t get how they can call each other out for every other type of bigotry then turn around and say “Miss did you know that the Jews control Trump?”

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AgitatedEngine4931
AgitatedEngine4931· 28d ago

At first I thought this would be a teachable moment about the difference between Jewish folk and Zionists, and maybe it still does need to be made clear. The apartheid and genocidal state has nothing to do with most Jewish people, despite their claims otherwise. Kids are dum...

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theatlanti_c37
theatlanti_c37· 29d ago

What's with the downvotes? Can someone explain why this is controversial

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DiligentLibr_a87
DiligentLibr_a87· 28d ago

All my Jewish friends are struggling with people assuming they’re Zionists AND dealing with both regular dumb antisemitism AND NOW anti-Zionist antisemitism. It sounds like a fucking nightmare and you have all my empathy.

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99mPhPup
99mPhPup· 28d ago

> Zionists Zionism is the belief that Israel has a right to exist. That is not controversial.

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ArcherSarcastic80
ArcherSarcastic80· 28d ago

I’m not surprised look at the world, social media and the news.

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HappyPhoenix621
HappyPhoenix621· 28d ago

The Israeli government has done more damage to their own image than any adversary could ever dream of doing. These kids are fully consuming what they see on social media and can’t distinguish Jewish people from Zionist and the Israeli government. The crazier part is that it’s ...

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Ok_Dedign_6841
Ok_Dedign_6841· 28d ago

Worse yet, the government wants them to believe Israel and Jews are one with the same. Look up "New Antisemitism" as defined by the ADL. They want kids see Israel = Jews. And it's really backfiring considering the heinous acts committed by the Likud party in Israel.

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BrightMountain171
BrightMountain171· 28d ago

That's by design. Netanyahu's regime is doing everything they can to use Jewish people around the world as human shields. And the vast majority of Jewish people globally denounce his regime.

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dollstreal97
dollstreal97· 28d ago

I had a student argue that in their research paper, but upon digging deeper they had just plagiarized a neo nazi blog, and didn’t actually believe it. Still sucked, but I felt a little better about them as people

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Zzi_ll6
Zzi_ll6· 28d ago

Say what you want about Israel, but as an American Jew, the instantaneousness with which antisemitism has exploded in frequency since October 7th has made me deeply fear about what future I have in this country. There are countless people who not only spout overt antisemitism ...

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sikLychillly
sikLychillly· 28d ago

I sympathize with your experiences with antisemitism, I've seen an increase in antisemitic rhetoric at my school as well and I always shut that shit down. I also talk about Holocaust denialism and why it's an idiotic stance (just covered that today actually). But I also think ...

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salawle45
salawle45· 28d ago

Yea antisemitism is hot these days.

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Well_SocialiZed7
Well_SocialiZed7· 28d ago

OP what grade level are we talking about

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CoolDragon384
CoolDragon384· 29d ago

12 grade college prep. This kid is supposed to be on track to go to college.

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DogRapid61
DogRapid61· 29d ago

It's what they're hearing. Antisemites have always said crap like that. Nowadays, too many people equate Isreal with Jewish people. There's arguments out there that Isreal has too much influence over American politics. That'd be a political argument. Saying that Jews have too...

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codey_codeR95
codey_codeR95· 28d ago

Failing grade plus an email attachment forwarded to admin and campus security. Mandated reporters reporting unsafe situations.

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Calm_Cat
Calm_Cat· 28d ago

If he means winning 30% of Nobel prizes, creating the polio vaccine, developing wifi, and creating Marvel Comics, he is not wrong. /s 😉

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Justin_Godfrey91
Justin_Godfrey91· 28d ago

This is why it’s important to separate Judaism as whole from the actions of Israel. With everything that Israel has done and how blatant their influence has been over our government they’ve provided anti semites with more ammunition then they could possibly ever dream of. Don...

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CatRapid23
CatRapid23· 29d ago

You’re surprised? I’m not- it’s so easy for kids (especially boys) to get sucked into the manosphere toxic hole. Shame on his parents for letting it continue. Unless they are the problem. Either way take it to admin to cover your butt

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GiddyS_wine
GiddyS_wine· 28d ago

The world has taken a sharp turn into antisemitism because people have an inability to separate the actions of Israel from Jewish people. The lack of the ability to separate the two and understand the nuance, leans into this. So, I'd argue more than a 'High School edge lord', ...

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PickildPuzzler
PickildPuzzler· 28d ago

> The world has taken a sharp turn into antisemitism because people have an inability to separate the actions of Israel from Jewish people This simply isn't the case. The anti-Semitism was always there, just like the Israeli crimes in Gaza have always been there. We under...

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PlAnetwalls-2
PlAnetwalls-2· 28d ago

Not only has that paper received no credible research, it comes to entirely inaccurate and misleading conclusions that no one who had done any degree of reasonable research or even just basic thinking could possibly have come to. It's a rant more than a research paper, an embi...

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littleproducer37
littleproducer37· 28d ago

What reasons did the student give that the "jews" are destroying America? Critisizm for Israel / Zionists are at an all time high, and rightfully so. But to say "Jews" are destroying America isnt exactly accurate.

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f9w78wu5y-6fb9
f9w78wu5y-6fb9· 28d ago

#ZIONISM JUST MEANS THAT ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST. Fuck. I'm so sick of people weaponizing this term by bastardizing the definition to mean "yay genocide." Netanyahu is a war criminal (and also just a regular, garden-variety criminal) and should never again see the outside...

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jiwonkwxn57
jiwonkwxn57· 28d ago

He showed the Epstein files, some conspiratorial text about the secret rules the jews live by, and put a picture of a cyclopes wearing a jacket with the N-word on it, claiming it was Obama in a humiliation ritual (probably held by the Illuminati).

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Fi_ranka
Fi_ranka· 28d ago

The downvotes on this are hilarious. Zionist / Israel criticism isnt anti semetic💀💀💀

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MDs2135
MDs2135· 29d ago

I mean. Yeah. There is stupidity. That being said. I am seeing a bit of alarmist kind of anti-semitism raise based on Israeli war crimes in Gaza. The problem is that students are having difficulty understanding nuance. Israeli = Jews and Jewish religion = Jews are bad.

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4vi3lsgp1l_ky2u
4vi3lsgp1l_ky2u· 28d ago

That isn't nuance. It's the bare minimum. Would we acknowledge "students having difficulty" in understanding that Saudi Arabian participation in 9/11 doesn't mean that all Muslims are bad? (No, we wouldn't--and, in fact, we didn't)

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ShaydEn998
ShaydEn998· 28d ago

It doesn’t help that the Israeli government likes to literally say Iraeli = Jews and Jewish Religion and if you disagree you’re antisemitic.  It’s so difficult trying to convince folks against antisemitism with everything Israel does.

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LowAdministratoon238
LowAdministratoon238· 29d ago

😳

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douB_len28
douB_len28· 29d ago

Fail them

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hUffpost81
hUffpost81· 29d ago

As a Jew, can you please PLEASE call him Cartman for the rest of the year??

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SnarkySnakySnel88
SnarkySnakySnel88· 28d ago

I know when I wake up in zee morning zee first sing I do is curse zee jews. How dare you interrupt mine sleep! With zee space lazers!

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Clever_Dragon864
Clever_Dragon864· 29d ago

The amount of anti-Israel commentary (typically related to Epstein & pedophilia) that I’ve been hearing from my 12th grade students has been insane this year.

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Glad_Hawk646
Glad_Hawk646· 29d ago

Anti-Israel and antisemitism aren't the same. OP didn't mention Israel at all.

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capnlatenight65
capnlatenight65· 28d ago

I havent seen much straight up anti-semitism, but over the past two years I've had a lot of students use Netanyahu or Israel in a joking way. I teach a lot of Arab and Muslim students, but none of them have ever really said anything serious.

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Justin_Godfrey91
Justin_Godfrey91· 29d ago

With us this joint Israeli/US engagement, you're going to hear more discourse. The adults are talking about it at home, loudly.

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Mission-SeEsaw4919
Mission-SeEsaw4919· 28d ago

Imagine excusing Islamophobia because of 9/11

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Calm_Cat
Calm_Cat· 28d ago

Thanks for all the antisemitism after Oct 7, liberals!

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Dark-Shadow950
Dark-Shadow950· 28d ago

Just give him an "A" and move along.. Oh, wait. I thought I was on the OU subreddit. Seriously though, do you know about the essay controversy there and if so, do you think it might have encouraged your student's behavior?

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Main_Bother1026
Main_Bother1026· 28d ago

I haven't heard anything about that. But it all seems par for the course now.

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Deep_Phoenix687
Deep_Phoenix687· 28d ago

AIPAC has a strong influence on American politics and is the reason we’re where we’re at now. He should’ve mentioned that for credibility.

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6vmjru1rcrb8
6vmjru1rcrb8· 28d ago

If you cannot educate your students and only resort to punishment and dogma you are not really showing any superiority to the Nazi regime. The modern liberal West debates ideas, educates and enlightens. You are a teacher and signed up for this whether you realized it or not. ...

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usetOday
usetOday· 28d ago

Could you have him switch to Zionism vs generalizing Jewish people as having zionists intentions?

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Calm-Dragon175
Calm-Dragon175· 28d ago

If he said Israelis he wouldn’t be wrong. Maybe you are uncomfortable with addressing the nuance of this situation considering you could lose your job, but acting like this is a simple situation disservices you and your student. In other words if you actually care about the...

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Hadoq_elagic2
Hadoq_elagic2· 28d ago

So, they arent really wrong when majority of your government is bought and paid for by Israeli lobbying groups like AIPAC and your political leaders cant say "America first" instead of israel first. OR the fact we have no money for health care or any social programs but we hav...

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abzeng87
abzeng87· 28d ago

Holy fucking shit almost everything you said is wrong.

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Beekier_t
Beekier_t· 28d ago

She didn't mention Israel. The students didn't say anything about israeli policy. They said Jews.  If I said "I hate all the Syrians", would that be acceptable? No. If I later added "its because of Assad" would that make it better? No

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anOnymouzandydick
anOnymouzandydick· 28d ago

OP did not mention Israel. The student is blaming Jews, not Israel.

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