Snapping Torx Sockets.
I’ve snapped 4 Torx bits trying to get this rotor off. Using a breaker bar, battery impact wrench doesn’t have enough juice to relocate them. Trying to hold onto the bar as aligned as possible. Any tricks of the trade to avoid snapping 4 more?
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Also HEAT those first. There is typically thread locker on them and you should replace these bolts each time anyway. Heat the hell out of them and impact driver off
400-450°F
^^^^^^ this is the correct answer
High Explosive Anti Tank? I think that would be a bit overkill, but whatever gets them unstuck, I guess
You need a manual impact, one that you hit with a hammer.
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I was looking for this, glad you were here to answer for me 👍. I’ve gotten more use out of my impact driver than I ever thought I would, when I bought it, years ago.
There is a tool with better control than the hammer and manual impact. It is called an old man screw knocker, or sometimes called shake and break. Use it with a cheap made-in-Chyna air hammer at lowest air pressure setting. You will have better control to turn the fastener ...
You need a quality impact rated Torx bit. Not those. Those Pittsburg use cheap weak steel and the others are a softer steel. Not impact grade quality tool steel. Major difference in strength. Then use it on an impact screwdriver.
Heat them to soften the loctite. You can hold a soldering iron against the head of the bolt for a couple of minutes, a heat gun, or a blow torch on really low. You don't want to get too much heat in the bearings or damage the finish on the wheel. Plan on replacing the bolts ...
Soldering iron lol. You need plenty of heat on these to soften the thread locker. Propane torch on max. Use a piece of sheet metal as a heat shield for the bearings.
The bolts have Red thread locker on them (Locktite) they require 500°F to 550°F to remove.
I’m seeing like a white, maybe yellow loctite on thre ones that came off. I’m guessing that’s going to be HD’s off brand red loctite equivalent.
https://www.harborfreight.com/6-bit-impact-screwdriver-set-with-case-64812.html
We have this exact set at work with every single bit it came with all warped up lol. The handle is *ok*.
Tried this one on rotor screws didnt work at all ended up drilling it out
I'd spend $15 more at Harbor Freight and get the Lisle manual impact driver. Mine is decades old and still usable.
Do these have like red loctite on them? Heat it up first.
It doesn’t help that ur using chinesium sockets but the major factor here is not heating them up first. Heat is always your friend
Not if it's coming out from betwixt your buttocks.
Get some PB Blaster and use a manual impact driver, I bet they'll come right out. https://preview.redd.it/7owgrkxirxog1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17b7cfd900f866a9497857a80159d177222c1a85 The hammers in electric impacts aren't all that heavy.
Manual impact driver is the way, also make sure the bolt heads are clean of debris, it can make a huge difference I believe they are also TTY (torque to yield) bolts intended for a single use, and should technically be replaced, but I reuse them all the time.
Were they lock tighted on? If/then, try an electric heat gun, to melt the lock tite.
Grip edge + impact screwdriver. You'll never look back. Expensive, but 100% worth it.
those bits look really worn out
You need some heat, those are loctited usually, plumbers blow lamp is fine doesn't take much to soften the loctite
You need to burn out the threadlocker on motorcycle brakes. they are installed with red threadlocker to resist the extreme vibrations of road noise, which makes them damn near impossible to get out without heat
You need a hammered impact driver. You hit it with a hammer and it applies all the force at once and breaks those free without much of an issue
Try sticking a bit in there, then hitting it with a hammer before you remove it. When I dismantled cars, this is how I’d get off brake rotors and door lock actuators. Couple hard whacks with a mini sledge and they come out with minimal effort They also make an impact screwdr...

Looks like you need an adamantium steel torx.
Torx suck big time euro car's use them biggest pos fastener I have ever had to put up with. Oh give me an allen key anytime at least then I have a fighting chance.
Good effort! I've snapped off loads of pozi bits but never a T45. You really, really don't want to damage the bolt heat though. As others have said, heat.
Have you tried shocking the threads/breaking up any rust in there by putting the socket bit into the bolts and with no or a SMALL amount of rotational force (like as soon as it resists don't push it) to hit the bit socket with a hammer? There's even some air hammer attachments...
Insert torx bits, hit it with a hammer 1-2 times and the screw usually loosens more easily
Lots of people are saying heat, but I don't see anyone saying why. Loctite breaks down at around 500 degrees and will then release the bolt. It might be the only way to get these out as the loctite might hold better than the strength of any bit you throw at it.
heat them up and hit them with a hammer first
If you’ve got an air hammer there’s a bit that you can buy that accepts a 3/8 drive on the end. Then you slip a wrench on it to turn stuff out while air hammering it. It works a treat on the rotor assembly t25s on GM (and others) brakes that love to strip
shake and break
HEAT !! Then thread chasers to get all that out of the holes. My Harley wheels were loaded with that stuff. (Loctite)
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“So I said to him, ‘it sounds like you’re just feeding sockets to a seized bolt.’ and then his tool guy started crying.”
Wth hell am i looking at in this picture? is this tire for a motorcylcle?
Yes
Snap on heavy duty Torx bits, insanely expensive but I haven’t broken a Torx but since I bought them, used to break them all the time
Yup all my Impact tools are Snap-on or MATCO Because worst case you break em just return for replacement.
The 9$ one at harbor freight works just fine
Is the Pittsburgh the 8 dollar one?
Grip Edge or Snap On sockets. They are pricey but just hold up better.
Heat and manual impact wrench. Those have been heat soaked and the metal has stuck together due to thermal expansion during use.
I took a angle grinder to mine and just purchased new rotors
Are you sure they aren't torx plus bolts. Don't have a ton of experience with T-plus but I've heard of this issue from others. Torxs plus will have a higher breaking point.
I had the same problem. Previous owner had drowned it in loctite. With heat I got out all but two. I ended up taking it to a machine shop where they drilled them out.
Heat is your friend
You got two off did they have thread lock on them? Blue is medium strength and red is permanent. A breaker bar will take blue but you'll need to soften red with heat. No thread lock then smack it a few times with a hammer, better still use an impact driver.
I’m just saying that bolts impact on with an air hammer and socket method look up air hammer socket tool and gently twist out unfortunately it’s my bosses and I can’t let you borrow it
Are they left hand thread?
No
Can't be tight if it's liquid
Gripedge sockets
Flame wrench and a Lisle 30750 impact driver
Heat them up, put you socket in and give it a few solid taps with a hammer to shock the threads. They should come out fairly easy after that.
Id also invest in some decent tools everything your hold is junk.
Had to use torx to remove pick up truck bed bolts for years......the only one that lasted was snap on.....pricey, but would last years, compared to every other make that would only last days
Made in China Craftsman and the lowest end harbor freight brand. No wonder they're snapping...
Better bits and a manual impact driver.
Heat heat heat, just enough to smoke and they’ll come right out
It's mildly impressive that you broke the impact bit even if it is a Pittsburgh. Do you have the bolts hot enough to deal with the locktite? Try making them hotter. I'd suggest better quality bits, even icon would be decent if you want fairly cheap and plan to keep snapping ...
Put tension on the socket and hit the ratchet with a brass hammer.
You can’t have those bolts coming loose or you don’t have brakes. Those will be installed from factory with high strength thread locker. You will have to heat the bolts to destroy the thread locker wait for them to cool before removing.Install new bolts with red loctite.
Heat them up, guaranteed home boy before you used red loctite
I’m seeing like a white, maybe yellow loctite on thre ones that came off. I’m guessing that’s going to be HD’s off brand red loctite equivalent.
Interesting, I know there is Green, Orange, Blue, Brown and Red. In any event, heating it up will help.
Use the manual impact driver.
Heat and a good whack with a hammer.
Heat heat, and then slightly more heat. Then tap the torx in place with a hammer gently ish. Then a manual impact
I love harbor freight these days. So tired of overpriced snap on. Sometimes to replace a tool the guy will show up maybe once a month. And if he has it I get lucky otherwise it'll take another month or so for a replacement. I can always walk right in to harbor freight anytime ...
Heat. And buy good sockets. Snap on sell the best torx and Allen sockets ime. Yes they are expensive. But fucking with damaged fasteners and broken tools is also expensive.
I f\*\*king hate Torx bits.
I don't mind torx as long as it isn't corroded. But it really puzzles me why someone went to all that trouble invent something worse than a hex/Allen head. At least triple square feels as good/better than a hex.
Is that tire from a chinese motorcycle? Because if it is, I don't think they were designed with the intention of being removable/replaceable. I had the same issue trying to disassemble the rotor from the tire. That rotor is pretty much built in.